Are France and Poland antisemitic?

Opposing Israeli atrocities doesn't neccessarily make you an antisemite. My grandparents fought against the Nazis during the war and several relatives died in the concentration camps. It doesn't take a genius to see that Israel's anti-Palestinian pogroms are both immoral and illegal

Give me enough time and i'll find it everywhere.. to include places in northern Europe. Who are alleged to be more 'enlightend' socialist and or neo-socialist states seeking utopianistic brotherhood amongst men.

Antisemitism did exist in Poland, mostly among the Ukrainian minority. Many Poles themselves are of Jewish descent, especially in the east. My grandparents remember boys throwing stones at Jews before the war, mobs of Ukrainian collaborators murdering Poles with axes and the police rounding people up when the Nazis invaded

Also! Semitic or Anti-Semitic can be misleading, its really arabs and jews and basically most middle eastern people...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Afroasiatic-en.svg
yes! thats right sooo really an arab can claim Anti-Semitism if he feels someone is treating him like a potential terrorist...:P
...how about that Family Guy eh?

What do we define as anti-Semitic? Some would consider opposition to ANYTHING the state of Israel might do to be anti-Semitic; I do not.

If those claiming the French and Polish are an anti-Semitic people, that is that their mainstream populations are guilty of overt racial prejudice and injustice against Jews, then that might be a good point to start from in looking at the issue.

I sometimes feel that Jewish jokes are a lot like Polish jokes, or Finlander jokes, or take you pick of various peoples picked for a time to take the brunt of jokes, no matter how serious the background of the joke might be!

Jews and Arabs for a fact, have been jokingly accused of being "ussery earning" bankers for years! And by who's authority did they get these jobs? Why by the so called Christian Church or certain Popes, etc,!

According to both Jewish and Arabic history (I believe) all debts were supposeldy forgiven after "seven years" or so! If I am incorrect please point out my mistake(s)!

Almost any new group of persons from one world to another is suddenly thrown into the "joke group" by virtue of their "strange" customs as well as their "bad language!", that is, they did not speak the language spoken by the majority!

Well, you get my point, I am sure!

Back, to Beck@!

Thanks for your view! Perhaps my view is clouded by my mostly American upbringing? But, amongst people aged 60 or older, in most of the USA, there has always existed a smouldering anti-semite feel! As I said, it is subtle, but lingering!

And, to let you know, that my view is not limited to just one or two places (areas) I have lived for months at a time in NYC, Philadelphia, Washington, DC (Virgina side), Seattle, Los Angeles, Dallas, Memphis, the Florida Pan-handle area, New Orleans, Mobile, AL, Del Rio, TX, Glenn Co., FL, and the Gulf Coast of Mississippi! The only states in the USA that I have not seen, are Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut and Rhode Island! Yes, I have also been in Hawaii and Alaska!

Due to work or pleasure, I have also visited Germany, England, Spain, Portugal, France (and Monte Carlo), Italy, Greece, Austria, Israel, Turkey, Japan, China, Taiwan, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Mexico, etc.!

And, after seeing all of the photos that Cyrus has posted concerning Iran, I certainly wish I has also visited it!

As Yoda might say "Well travelled, I am!"

So, as you might see, I don't think that I am merely a product of limited contact with other people and other ideas, etc.!

My Regards, as always!

A Polish blood sucking insect?   

But, you understand that you are you and millions of other Poles and Franks, and English are not you!

I speak for the mainstream center! While it may not be openly manifest, it always exists under the table, in private jokes, etc.!

Nothing much can be done about it, I am afraid!

And, besides, in France, for example, a large minority of the nation is Moslem! Do I have to ask their position vis a vis the Jews?

Maybe the real question might have been? "Are France and Poland anti-muslim?"

Would any of your answers change? Would mine?

But, of course, as in many things that I write, I could well be wrong? I certainly hope so!

Regards, as always!

Edited by opuslola - 07-Apr-2010 at 15:26

My answer, as regards the "original" question, is YES!

It is ingrained for centuries! And, groups on both sides continue to keep the hatred, from both sides, to continue!