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    Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 20:17
is there any real evidence to suppport that?
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None at all - you kick me, I'll hack your leg off with my sword - or I'll shoot you..easy as that - although I assume that when the fight gets nitty gritty, close combat, it might come in use - although I doubt any combat narrative will get that close.
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yes, but when you consider martial-arts-using-movie-stars' miraculous ability to miss bullets it looks pretty effective
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Originally posted by Murph

yes, but when you consider martial-arts-using-movie-stars' miraculous ability to miss bullets it looks pretty effective


Yea, Jet Li has skillz.
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an army of jet li's could easily conquer the world because it seems no one can shoot him, no matter how clear of a shot they have...even a nuke would probably miss
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Originally posted by Murph

an army of jet li's could easily conquer the world because it seems no one can shoot him, no matter how clear of a shot they have...even a nuke would probably miss


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How effective was karate when the Okinawans used it against the samurai?
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Originally posted by Genghis

How effective was karate when the Okinawans used it against the samurai?


I wouldn't really know - however, I think it was more effective for the Okinawans when the American Shermans began to roll into town.  If you're talking about that era...


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It is highly effective.

but I think you have to consider time periods here. Martial Arts have counters for weapons such as swords, axes, staffs, etc...

thats why ti was so heavily used in Asia in ancient times.

Obviously its not as effective anymore because of the invention of guns. But if a fight ends up coming to a hand to hand battle.....you better hope your opponent isn't a blackbelt
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You all of course are aware that martial arts refer to more than just hand-to-hand combat. Martial arts are everything that are well martial. This includes weapons as well.

However, if you are only talking about hand-to-hand combat...

Martial artists are not good as rank and file soldiers. They require a great deal of idividuality to function. Therefore, it would be very difficult to use them tactically. They would probably be better used as bodyguards or an elite force like the Sunbae or Hwarangs of Korea.
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What am I going to say is, there is no such things as material art.
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Originally posted by ChineseManchurian

What am I going to say is, there is no such things as material art.

What does this mean?
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It means martial arts don't exist....which I disagree with...
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Martial Arts would come in handy for battles mabey even 200 years ago, but now it only has a limited use in war.
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again, material art is only in the book that some famous Chinese arthur had wrote, there is no such thing is material art in the history.
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Originally posted by ChineseManchurian

again, material art is only in the book that some famous Chinese arthur had wrote, there is no such thing is material art in the history.

Could you perhaps clarify what you are saying a provide sources?

 
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Martial arts, as they were and as they is now, was not made for that Jet lee movie you see in hollywood. 

It was primarly made to train troops so they don't get lazy up their fatty acids. 
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 I imgaine it wouldn't be useful in so much as a street fight nowaday. Even in school people have a knife (or in some worse cases a handgun).
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It's good in disarming a hand knife, or even a hand gun.  But I don't think martial arts is all that it takes.  Another factor is confidence.  Like it takes a huge load of guts to actually tackle on a guy with handgun with your karate skills. 

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referring to the post on, karate used against samurai
it was effective, seeming it was said that some samurai opponents could accually punch through there armour
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