Hawaiian population

Originally posted by Ikki Hi. Interested about this culture i was searching without success stimations of population island by island (for all the islands there are stimations from 200 thousand to 1 million), at the time of the european arrival around...1800 Any idea?

I think you are right. Those numbers seem accurate. The case of Easter Island is particular. They suffered an ecological cathastrophe.

Originally posted by Ikki Pascua had only 163 KM2!! I thought that was more great, but with that area, i think that is impossible populations over 5000. Do you know the agricultural techniques of this people?

Yes, but you have to see how Easter Island look today to realize there was an ecological cathastrophe there. The fact is there was a period were there was not enough food, and canibalism was widespread.

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Edited by pinguin - 14-Jan-2007 at 08:26

Interesting thread.

I heard from a soldier (Canadian) once who went on leave in Hawai'i that the local native population is still very poorly treated and segregated.  He said he wanted to go over and talk to some of them and all the Americans said "no! no ! you'll get beat up!!" but that when he went over they were just friendly to him.

Has anyone been there?

Originally posted by Dan Carkner Interesting thread. I heard from a soldier (Canadian) once who went on leave in Hawai'i that the local native population is still very poorly treated and segregated.  He said he wanted to go over and talk to some of them and all the Americans said "no! no ! you'll get beat up!!" but that when he went over they were just friendly to him. Has anyone been there?

When exactly did your friend went to Hawaii? Hawaiians are fully integrated into American society now. My Hawaiian friend's family, who are actually living in California, comes from a wealthy family in California like my dad's family in Illinois. Actually I know him when I went to Marine Corps bootcamp with him in MCRD San Diego. I know that Hawaii had a senator who was Half native Hawaiian half Chinese, another governor who is full Japanese American, and a state governor who is full Filipino American.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_J._Cayetano
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Akaka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Inouye
Since it's a small state it's a pretty diverse state because of all the influx of Filipino, Japanese, Portuguese, Puerto Rican, Anglo-Celtic Americans, and other Asian immigrants they get over there since the early 1900's.


Edited by chessrook1 - 14-Jan-2007 at 23:41

I can believe him if he was an old man that was there in the early 1900�s. From what I�ve read about, Hawaiians use to be looked down on as �children� by the Anglo-Celtic Americans back in those days and pre-WW2 white US servicemen stationed there who were from the mid-west and southern states didn�t like the native Hawaiians intermingling with the white American women. But I don�t think that kind of racist stuff would happen recently. Hawaii is supposed to be a pretty diverse state.

*edit: However, I'm thinking that if this was a long time ago, maybe the Americans were trying to warn him not to go near them because the Hawaiians they were seeing might be lepers. Hawaii use to have a large leper colony in one of their islands (which can now be treated). This poor Belgian priest became infected with lepersy for helping the Native Hawaiians and others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalawao_County,_Hawaii



Edited by chessrook1 - 15-Jan-2007 at 04:47

Originally posted by Dan Carkner Heh heh this was in like 1999 I think, not 1899. A place can be diverse and still racist.  Look at Canada, it's "multicultural" but people still hate native people and keep them segregated and hungry in reservations..

OK, that's interesting, thanks for replying.