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    Posted: 07-Dec-2004 at 16:15

What was the aftermath of the Opium War and its impact on China?

Some say it actually favored China to have HK ceded.

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  Quote Winterhaze13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2004 at 17:37
Well, if I refer to my lecture notes. The Treaty of Nanijing(1842), Britain received Hong Kong, Most favoured nation status, low tariffs and most notably 5 treaty ports. This ultimately lead to an opening up of China to the west. The "open-door policy" ensued which lead to the boxer rebellion. I think these changes lead to greater instability in the country but I do not know that much about Asian history.
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 10:38

I think the immediate effect were it caused the death and suffering to millions from opium addiction and sabataged the Chinese economy which was trading at profit with Europe so made the China powerful enough to interfere with European policy in other Asian countries.

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  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 11:50

i need to write a paper on that and i am done

on my paper it says the opium war in the long run actualy benefited china in terms of economic and social developments



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  Quote Genghis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 20:11
Originally posted by Paul

I think the immediate effect were it caused the death and suffering to millions from opium addiction and sabataged the Chinese economy which was trading at profit with Europe so made the China powerful enough to interfere with European policy in other Asian countries.

I agree, what the British did was just sick, they stand guilty of poisoning a great country.  How terrible that such a great people as the British became mere drug-pushing thugs and in so doing destroyed the great Chinese nation.

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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 20:12
Originally posted by coolstorm

i need to write a paper on that and i am done

on my paper it says the opium war in the long run actualy benefited china in terms of economic and social developments



How did China prosper from this?  It seems to lean more to the British...
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  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 23:29

"How did China prosper from this?  It seems to lean more to the British..."

China was closed to the rest of the world before the opium war.

as a result of the opium war, five trade ports were open and hong kong was ceded.

these trade ports such as shanghai and hong kong later became prosper and important commercial cities.

during the chinese civil war, cultural revolution, and ww2, hk became the shelter for chinese capitals, refugees, and businessmen. it also served as a base for anti-manchu revolutionists, giving birth to the republic.

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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 18:43
Originally posted by coolstorm

"How did China prosper from this?  It seems to lean more to the British..."

China was closed to the rest of the world before the opium war.

as a result of the opium war, five trade ports were open and hong kong was ceded.

these trade ports such as shanghai and hong kong later became prosper and important commercial cities.

during the chinese civil war, cultural revolution, and ww2, hk became the shelter for chinese capitals, refugees, and businessmen. it also served as a base for anti-manchu revolutionists, giving birth to the republic.



Ahh I'm starting to see it.  So the opening up of China and British development of Hongkong are the pros.  Much clearer now.  Thanks.
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  Quote J.M.Finegold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 23:55
It also pushed other nations to open their own zones of influce in China, such as the United States, Germany, Japan (BIG IMPORTANCE), and Russia.
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In the long run the war was a good thing.  China was somewhat prosperous at the onset of the war, but it also had a stagnant civilization that was seriously lagging behind the west.  The conflict shattered China's complacency, and probably led to the development of modern China as we know.  Had the British not crushed China in that war, China would probably continue onwards, oblivious to the outside world, and eventually be completely colonized by a more brutal foreign power.
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 05:03
   i don't think there were any foreign power at the time as brutal as the poms
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 19:37
Depends on the definition of brutality.  If one thinks about it, this gradual encroachment upon China's sphere of influence gave China time to adapt and find it's own position in the world.  China had a century of defeats and humiliations at the hands of the West and Japan.  That's enough time to get the majority of Chinese people to want to change their society and to move forward towards modern civilization.  Had China been left alone, the nation would not have modernized at all.  Can you imagine how WWII would play out, with Imperial Japan and it's modern weaponery, and China still with 17th century muskets?  What's more brutal, spilling some blood early on to wake up a civilization, or having the entire civilization go under at a slightly later date?   
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