History comparisons! Othman and Macedonian

Regardless of my inability to translate your English, I feel that your response above, was supporting of my posting?

Are am I incorrect?

Ron

Dear medenaywe, perhaps you are not really familar with the actions of the Catalans, and other Spanish troops (the Navareese) in the Balkans during the times before and after the fall of Constantinople to the Latins?

But, from little bits and pieces, it has been brought to my awareness, that just such activity did take place! It's scope is not however known! As you might well know, these times are mostly considered as "dark ages!" I wonder why?

Well if you can assume that the breach of our "proto religions", that is Christianity, Islam, and Judiasm, only occured after the fall of Byzantium/Constantinople, and environs, then you might well get my drift/conclusions?

I will propose that the wars, we now refer to as wars of Royalty, from France, Germany, Spain, etc., were merely the wars of the various sects of of the "proto" Christian strains, and the "proto" Islamic strains, and the "Proto" Jude strains, etc.!

The term "Holy Roman Emperor" did not come from nothing! The idea of the perfect "king/holy man", is very old! Perhaps I should call it "Pope/King?"

Thus, in basically this same period begans the era of competing "Popes", "Popes" located in differing areas, etc., and Kings, constantantly moving from place to place!

All things considered it is all very strange and unique in the past! At least for most of the times!

Medenaywe, did you miss my posting above?

You all are close to something...but will not find solution in word play game...Alexander was idea for many of them after his death...But memory that they were once together, like a storytelling, have survived until today...Religion separated them...and made the enemies from same people once..Egypt and civilized life in this area, we know like cycle for at least 7000 years and more...But name of main doers in this  complex society is still unknown...In fact this is main history forgery and case of stolen identity of human entity in all Mediterranean area...Those  people  were  main actors in Iliada and Oddysy...And they were goat pharaons.They  migrated  all around  Mediterranean  sea...I prefer Mo...for Mohamed ..or Mo Ha Me Di...You have Di/Do/Da/De...All of them are good for making a logical sentence...Syllables were there homeland...until now,just trust me...

In other words, my above post would tend to indicate that the Othmans / Ottomans had already occupied a rather large portion of Europe, before they began the "final solution!"

Byzant, was it appears, surrounded on all sides, but still held a strangle hold on E. to W. trade via the passage from one to another, a canal if you must! And with the occupation of part of this territory by certain Italian groups, such as the Venetians, Florenzians, Pisans, etc., they provided a choke point on sea trade across this area!

Did religious division actually cause the fall of Byzant to the Othman Empire?

Can anyone tell me how the correct term "Othmen" or "Othman" was converted to "Ottoman, Ottomen?"

I would surely like to know the answer, as well as a believable reason?

Well a city had existed there for a considerable time before hand, it just suddenly got alot more important after Constantine.

Don't be afraid Red Clay! If certain posters here, actually backslide in my direction, they will not be harmed!

Education, in any form, is still, EDUCATION!

If I provide some suggestions, or comments, or challenges to our currently accepted time-line, then you, as one secure in the confines of it, should "merely stay quiet" on the sidelines!

After all, all of the momentum is on your side!

Edited by opuslola - 20-Jul-2010 at 12:55

Originally posted by Carol I am finding Ron extremely beneficial.   He stimulates me to question things, and this leads me to googling for more information, and than I learn things I didn't even know there was to learn.   For example, he brings up Macedonian which is about the greatness of Alexander, which makes me question his greatness, and this makes me question the greatness of Peter the Great as well, which leads to discovering something every interest about the Scots.  Now I am opening a thread about the Scots.

I am finding Ron extremely beneficial.   He stimulates me to question things, and this leads me to googling for more information, and than I learn things I didn't even know there was to learn.   For example, he brings up Macedonian which is about the greatness of Alexander, which makes me question his greatness, and this makes me question the greatness of Peter the Great as well, which leads to discovering something every interest about the Scots.  Now I am opening a thread about the Scots.  

Edited by Carol - 10-Jul-2010 at 11:07

Hey!  You 2 butt out.  Ron was doing fine, all by himself. I just want to be around when he posts something he doesn't agree with.