The Iranian Language

That's right.  Arabic, although related to Aramaic, did not originate from Aramaic.  Persian, on the other hand isn't even related to Arabic or Aramaic, but to other Indo-European languages.  Its closest relatives are most of the languages of Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Tajikistan.

Originally posted by Zagros Could you have written that any smaller?

masti baba? (just kidding )

it is so big...

 

I forgot to add that I think Iranian should be revived, and they should use the olde version...

 

teshekur... (not merci )

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Ahhh... ok ok.. Turkish and Persian has no Arabic words.. tamam! -(vay vay vay.. ain't that an Arabic word used by Turkish and Iranians!)

 

I am not sure about Turkish... although so many of the words are originally Arabic...

 

Persian and Arabic, both are from the same origins, Aramaic-(I hope I wrote it right). Therefore, the words are Arabic & Persian. Plus, and over the years we started using words from each other! Therefore learning Arabic without knowing a bit Farsi, or learning Farsi without knowing Arabic is impossible.

 

Come on what's wrong with Arabic, why you hate it so much!

 

It is Sad how some Turks and Iranians try their best to Europeanise their language, using English or French words instead of the original words used by their ancestors, just because it was originally Arabic... Maalesef

 

By the way, Salaam/Selam/Salom isn't only used by Arabs and/or Muslims, many nations would say "peace upon you" as their hello ! I found it a nice word to use, why one would hate using it

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yes but not all, and iam not saying that they all sounded like Arabic, someone posted that he is learning Farsi and tell whoever who teachs him not to teach him any Arabic words in Farsi, its like he want to learn Pure Farsi, i told him that he as a new learner wont understand what many iranins would say if he didnt learn at least some Arabic words which are used more in the Daily life.

 

Arabic words are usually Persianised and don't sound anything like they would in Arabic.

Originally posted by Azimuth you can open a new thread if you like

sure u want to do that? cause I'll be there you know

I was glancing through the topics since I'm no longer an addicted user anymore   that I saw this thread and couldn't resist not replying to it. As azimuth said M. Persian has a lot of Arabic words, true. But saying that the language would be incapable of meaning without its Arabic words is not acceptable. Since for a long time Arabic was the official language of Iran, (nowadays) we see the Arabic words used in the "Formal" conversations, letters and books. But, as many Iranians who read (lol) would know, between the Ghajar era and the Pahlavi's many foreign words were dismissed and replaced by their Persian equaltions. Now if we take a book -- let's take a novel for example -- from Pahlavi era and compare it to a newly published novel (any) we would clearly be able to distinguish the diverse level of literature, I mean when I was reading the "Animal Farm" (translated in 1976~79) a few weeks ago for the second time, I didn't understand a number of words. As for the slang Persian, we use Arabic words as well, but if we want to, we can easily replace them with Persian. It's just the matter of popularity and habit.

to answer one of the earlier posts regarding the roots of Din, I, again, as many times before have to say that the root is Daen� which comes from Avestan. We don't have any evidence of the existance of this word in any Semetic languages dating back to the 1st mil. bc or earlier.

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I see, although I have many questions about this but I think It'll be way out of topic so maybe some other time, thanks Azimuth

Originally posted by azimuth Originally posted by Yekta What root and meaning would that be? the root of Din in Arabic is Dan it has many meanings, from which the word din came is this meaning submitted and obeyed. Din or Deen to be more accurate in the pronounciation means  Habit and the obedience and the humiliation and the disease and the calculation ( calcuations as in Judgement day)

You mean the word ����?

I think you are refering to the word "wuzu", correct me if I am wrong.

No abdest/�bdast(�b+dast = water+hand) is not used in Qur'an. 

the word "abdest" is taken from persian, but does abdest used in Kur'an'i Kerim?