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Topic: Top 100 Generals Posted: 03-May-2012 at 01:24 |
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Posted: 20-Apr-2012 at 15:51 |
1-Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK other generals aren't very important :)
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Posted: 10-Mar-2012 at 18:29 |
Von manstein so low is ludicrous,Best general of 21st century.
1.Bonaparte.Anyone who has read in depth about this guy should know why he's here.
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Caesar,alexander,manstein,subutai and khalid ibn al walid in no particular order. These guys are tier 2 imo.
Tier 3. Adolphus,scipio,hannibal,wellington,marlbrough,davout,turrenne,rommel,guderian,patton,frederick the great,moltke.
Then the rest. I haven't included guerilla or naval commanders as its very difficult to compare them. Also very little info on chinese generals personally,so haven't included them. note;sun tzu was a military theorist mostly,genghis khan was mostly nominal overall army commander main battlegroups were led by subutai and other mongol generals.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 14:26 |
As usual with these questions..... it is entirely era contextual and who were their contemporaries, adversaries and or even allies.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 14:18 |
Yeah I'd have to sya Alexander the Great as #1. I definitely think William Wallace should be in with a shout
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Posted: 17-Jul-2011 at 19:59 |
Hmm. The list has the right names on them, but i disagree with some of the rankings. Example being, Napoleon above Hannibal and Khalid ibn al Walid. That just doesnt seem right to me.
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Posted: 27-May-2011 at 11:03 |
Temujin should be number 1 in my opinion.
I also did not notice General Ban Chao of the Han Dynasty.
Edited by shikra - 27-May-2011 at 11:03
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Posted: 14-Apr-2011 at 15:02 |
Jan Zizka and Robert E. Lee are one of the top best!
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Posted: 14-Apr-2011 at 14:58 |
How is Alexander the Great who maybe could have conquered most of the known world at that time a better General than Temujin who did Conquer most of the world known at his time.
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Posted: 05-Apr-2011 at 11:36 |
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
Would you please give their English name equivelents that i might research them?
And welcome to the forum.
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My Chinese isn't as good as my Japanese, but I think he's referring to Zhu Yuanzhang, who was an Emperor of China and Wei Qing, who was a strategist of the Han dynasty.
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Centrix Vigilis
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Posted: 05-Apr-2011 at 04:52 |
Would you please give their English name equivelents that i might research them?
And welcome to the forum.
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Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 05-Apr-2011 at 04:53
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Posted: 05-Apr-2011 at 04:32 |
You didn't include many Oriental Generals.
generals like 朱元璋 and 卫青 should be ranked on the list
Edited by xveys - 05-Apr-2011 at 04:35
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Posted: 14-Mar-2011 at 10:00 |
Originally posted by felixmt
Check out the debate on Greatest military commander of all time here:
experts arguing the case for Washington, Alexander the Great, Otto Von Bismarck, Augustus Caesar and many more! |
Wow. Please take no offense, but that's a horrible website. Their efforts to discuss this subject matter is awful. At best, a weak effort.
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Posted: 04-Mar-2011 at 21:02 |
Intersting.
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Posted: 27-Jan-2011 at 17:58 |
I agree
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Posted: 27-Jan-2011 at 17:58 |
Where is Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington? you have Napoleon 3rd. Fair enough but Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington was the one who broke into France and who stopped Napoleon the 2nd time. So why is he not at least in the top 10 and he was way better than John Churchill, who is not even the greatest man in his family.
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Posted: 05-Dec-2010 at 23:59 |
Amen
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Posted: 05-Dec-2010 at 23:57 |
Erwin Rommel deserves a higher position, lets be real guys
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Posted: 08-Nov-2010 at 12:23 |
Check out the debate on Greatest military commander of all time here:
experts arguing the case for Washington, Alexander the Great, Otto Von Bismarck, Augustus Caesar and many more!
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Posted: 28-Sep-2010 at 13:05 |
Originally posted by Tiger of Kai
Originally posted by nomooon
Originally posted by Tiger of Kai
There's no way Ieyasu should be ranked higher than Nobunaga or Hideyoshi.
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yeah the list of japanese commanders is rediculous, hideyoshi and ieyasu are not even top tier commanders in Sengoku Era. Uesugi, Takeda, Hojo, Sanada and Mori all have produced better top tier commanders than the two unifiers
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I don't really have a problem with Hideyoshi being ranked. His consolidation of power was an amazing feat. Not to mention his conquest of Kyushu. Of course, the Korean Invasions are a black mark on his record.
I wouldn't include the Sanada with the likes of the Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo and Mori. While they were an important family, for the most part, they were vassals of the Takeda or Toyotomi. I would probably add the Shimazu to the families that you have listed.
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I felt Hideyoshi was a decent commander, but probably not top-notch enough like the other more legendary figures. He made spectacular retreats, but battles he'd won were not against tough competition. Shimazu was a decent family also, I overlooked them because I was searching from daimyos from the central part of Japan where dominance over the entire land was decided.
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