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    Posted: 13-Feb-2007 at 12:08
Originally posted by Dolphin

The kyoto protocol was just a gesture made by the big world players in a huge burst of diplomacy, nobody can enforce it, and only Denmark I believe out of all the signatories is on target to meet their promises. Ireland is a disgrace.
The Nuclear question must be raised again I believe, because it is unfeasible to expect the abstract blob that is society to stop driving cars and flying around the world in planes, much more feasible and realistic for the energy we all use to be created in alternative and efficient ways.
 
Nuclear energy is not the answer. Personally I think the chances of a terrorist attack on a Nuclear facility is reason enough for us to refuse the use of nuclear energy, but here's an article that can phrase it in a more domineering light.
 
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The kyoto protocol was just a gesture made by the big world players in a huge burst of diplomacy, nobody can enforce it, and only Denmark I believe out of all the signatories is on target to meet their promises. Ireland is a disgrace.
The Nuclear question must be raised again I believe, because it is unfeasible to expect the abstract blob that is society to stop driving cars and flying around the world in planes, much more feasible and realistic for the energy we all use to be created in alternative and efficient ways.
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I think I heard that, but they didn't say they were but would have to if they wanted to keep up with the energy demands.
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Originally posted by JanusRook

You guys will realize how useless the Kyoto Protocol is, when China starts producing more greenhouse gas then the US.

China of course is a signer of the Kyoto Protocol, but falls under the "developing nation" category and as such doesn't have to follow the guidelines listed. This is the reason that the US didn't sign the treaty, since it would cripple our economy against that of China's and other nations that wouldn't have to cut down on emissions.


That is true. Isn't China going to build one coal fired power plant a week for the next 10 years or something?
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You guys will realize how useless the Kyoto Protocol is, when China starts producing more greenhouse gas then the US.

China of course is a signer of the Kyoto Protocol, but falls under the "developing nation" category and as such doesn't have to follow the guidelines listed. This is the reason that the US didn't sign the treaty, since it would cripple our economy against that of China's and other nations that wouldn't have to cut down on emissions.
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Depends on the impact of the polluted environment. Unless the US corrupts planet Earth enough so that other nations are in crisis and enough suffering for the people, then yes. They will not have to bother delcaring war, since America (Having the best intelligence in the world) would already know that they are under the threat. But US would most likely prevent this build-up. After all, US needs to survive as well. They are not that ignorant.
     
   
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If the US refuses to sign Kyoto greenhouse gas treaty, and is the largest producer of global warming pollutants;
and if the eventual effect is irreversible global damage;
 and if that causes industrial, economic and population loss;
and if other countries also act the same way;
then is that an undeclared war of greater size than others?
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