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Topic: Persian Hero, Unknown Martyr Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 16:54 |
Originally posted by Land of Aryan
similar to Zekre Hossein ebne Mansor Halaj. He had same destiny.
Anoshe Baad Ravane Babake Khoramdin
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Yes, Mansour Halaj, Hasan Sabbah, and Maziyar. They were like Babak too. Very important persons in the history of your country. I think if they were not fighting, the Iranians would have spoken Arabic now.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 14:29 |
Dear Gharanai, I respect to your opinion, well all are not same, for you religion is most important thing, for me to be Iranian(Iranic) is most important & Really I don't care what's religion, You know moslem as brothers, I know Afghani, Tajic, Kurd,... as brothers & to be chirsitian jew Moslim or Kafer is not mistake for me.
I think Shirin Ebadi said better: I am an Iranian. A descendant of Cyrus The Great. The very emperor
who proclaimed at the pinnacle of power 2500 years ago that "... he
would not reign over the people if they did not wish it." And [he]
promised not to force any person to change his religion and faith and
guaranteed freedom for all. The Charter of Cyrus The Great is one of
the most important documents that should be studied in the history of
human rights.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 12:48 |
Originally posted by Land of Aryan
@Garanai: Dear man from Aria, I think He's your people too |
Dear, I don't have anything with if he is from us or anyone else, all I am concern with is that he was against Islam and Islam is the religion in which I believe (from birth upto now and till dead). So I really don't care if he was from Aryana or some other place even if he was my own blood I would had felt proud killing him.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 11:35 |
@Garanai: Dear man from Aria, I think He's your people too
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 10:03 |
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No, dear friend Gharanay what he means is we need more statues of iranian heros more necessary than foreign statues. |
Oh, in that case then I would like to say that it was my mistake and am sorry as I got it in other way.
And yes you are rigth it's better to have status of your own people rather than foriegners until they are not of people who were agianst what you are not...
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 09:26 |
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its statues of people like this we need more of on the streets of tehran, not statues of palestinians throwing rocks while trampling the star of david. |
Well, I guess Iran is STILL an Islamic country and there is no place for a person who killed over half a million muslims, in an Islamic country.
That's why you see the statue of a defender of Islam rather than a person who killed muslims.
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No, dear friend Gharanay what he means is we need more statues of iranian heros more necessary than foreign statues.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 09:00 |
Originally posted by Iranian41ife
its statues of people like this we need more of on the streets of tehran, not statues of palestinians throwing rocks while trampling the star of david. |
Well, I guess Iran is STILL an Islamic country and there is no place for a person who killed over half a million muslims, in an Islamic country.
That's why you see the statue of a defender of Islam rather than a person who killed muslims.
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Posted: 22-Apr-2006 at 22:34 |
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why isnt this thread gettin more attention?
its statues of people like this we need more of on the streets of tehran, not statues of palestinians throwing rocks while trampling the star of david.
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Posted: 21-Apr-2006 at 13:16 |
similar to Zekre Hossein ebne Mansor Halaj.He had same destiny. Anoshe Baad Ravane Babake Khoramdin
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Posted: 21-Apr-2006 at 12:34 |
Had to end sometime.
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Posted: 21-Apr-2006 at 12:31 |
Persian Hero, Unknown Martyr If you read one thing this year, let it be this!
When Babak was finally betrayed by one of his own men after 22 years of resisting Arab rule, they tied him up, put him on a horse and paraded to the Khalife. With our citizens watching and the Arab army surrounding the Khalife, the Khalife told him to convert to Islam or die. Babak spat in his face, and the Khalife order to have the hero of the Persians be cut piece by piece in front of his people to made an example of.
they cut off his feet, then his hands. With tears dripping down Babaks eyes he forced himself not to scream under the unbearable pain. Until he finally could not hold it no more and screamed at Afshin (the Iranian traitor) and said "why did you betray Iran". Even under the most unbearable pain he was mourning the betrayal of Iran before himself.
his feet, his legs from knee down and hands were getting cut off at this point. and what did Babak do?
when his left hand was cut, he dipped his right hand into the blood of his left and smothered it all over his face. The Khalife asked why do u do this? Babak replied slowly as he was nauseated:
"My face is turning pale, and i dont want noone to get the impression that im scared"
And they proceeded to cut off every limb and bone in his body...
With no arms and no legs, right before they were getting ready to cut off his head, with his last gasp of breth he looked to the crowd and sayd, "Zahee asaani" or in modern Persian "che ghadr asoon bood marg". And he rolled over with his last ounce of strength so the people wouldnt see his defeated face.
His remains were publicly hung and put on display to rot in front of the eyes of his fellow Iranians. His head was picked up by the Khalife and he looked at the people and said "this is the price you pay when you betray Islam". His head was later put on a spear and put in the town squares of different cities for all Iranians to see.
In all his 22 years, Babak and his army (the red shirts) killed over half a million Arab Muslims and was never once defeated. The cause of his downfall was the famous Persian tradition of the traitors.
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