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    Posted: 05-Apr-2010 at 08:26
Since no one has ventured to make a claim or guess, I will venture forth!

What can be said about considering the "Paschal" or "Easter" date(s), as a "HUB" date!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschal

You have numerous sites to explore above! Perhaps some of you will do so?

Please read this site? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korban_Pesach

And this one; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_of_God

And these; http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/250704   And;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter and;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Lilius

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Feb-2010 at 19:25
Still, no responses! Can none of you even consider the question? Is this apparent truism so disconnect all of you from even giving it some consideration?

In your hearts, and in good sense, you each can recognize that some "hub" date must have been discovered and used! Or maybe more than one "hub", with one "hub" connecting with the other, etc.?

Otherwise, dark ages, or other words that actually denote a "dark age" have to be considered to have little dating potential!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Jan-2010 at 16:59
Hello members, and others! This post is a question designed to find out a basic truth or truism!

That is, when our history and chronology was first placed into writing or print, the collecters of this mass of information had to have derived a date, from which all other dates could be related! Thus the following post;

AD / BC means very little if one does not really know the correct generation / period / century / millennium in which to begin!

Pray tell me just what date is the starting point? That is, by what standard does anyone determine just what epoch was used as the "prime" number? I would suggest that it is mostly a "tradition" that keeps it going?

But, this is a question for everyone, just what event in history can be fully justified as a "real time?"

And if it was a "real time", then by what evidence is there presented, to make it acceptable to us today?

Was it a celestial event?
Was it an eruption?
Was it a flood?
Was it a plague?
Was it a lineage from someones family that exists today, that is traced back over 2,000 years?
Was it merely? astronomical?
Was it a drought?   
Was it a "little Ice Age?"
Was it the birth of a King or Queen?
Was it the birth or death of a Saint?
Was it a military victory or defeat?
Was it merely the "general opinion?"

Pray, I plead, just what do each of you place complete / unequivocal (meaning " Admitting of no doubt or misunderstanding; clear and unambiguous", evidence towards that you would bet your life upon it, was the date, you would chose, by which all other dates are to be constrained or considered?

It is obvious if you considered the last addrress I left on this site (http://skeptically.org/oldtestament/id15.html), that a great many "great minds" who actually live much closer to the event(s) in question, and in eras where there still might well have existed original documents to prove or disprove ones opinion, that many dates have been presented for the "begining" have been considered! Each of these dates directly addresses the "birth of the Saviour!", however?

Do we all disregard Velikovsky, or Isaac Newton?

It is most obvious that each and every one of you has to rely upon "some one", or a "group of someones", who(m) presented some point(s), by which you place your faith, in both their words and their dates / datings! / Chronologies!

If there exists some date in what we call AD, times that you can rely upon to count backwards to the "birth of the Christ", then present it please? (I.E. can anyone prove a direct lineage between their famiy and Christ?, or Herod?, or Caesar?, or anyone else from that period?)

If so, is there also some date, that preceedes the birth of the Christ, that is so verifible? If so, then please present it?

Can it really be either way? Can any of us really be sure?

I would hope you could leave "faith" out of the responses?

It is by "faith" that I await!, in some repose!

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