Communism

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It is not possible for one to get as much as one wants in life, so I would say that a system that advocates such illusions does not look good on paper or in practice.  Also, the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is still a dictatorship, and therefore wrong (in my opinion). [/Q]
 In that case if only people were more like me. I would ask for barely more than I have now. Food, shelter, job with weekends and 1 or 2 expensive thigns a year.

Originally posted by Winterhaze13 It is unacceptable to believe that the poor are weak and deserve their fate. Why don't you read the Codes of Conflict, it violates it,  it's absurd. 6. Nationalism, derogatory remarks to national or ethnic groups, jingoism, bigotry, racism, political propaganda. By defending fascism and social Darwinism you are condoning racism, because that is what they imply. This is nothing personal, I just think his comments are offensive and I think that it should at least be brought to his attention. Don't compromise the integrity of this forum.

I never intended this to show that certain countries are superior to others.  I was saying that an individual within his own society should be allowed to work hard and be justly rewarded, and that within that same society people who take resources but do not give their efforts toward the benefit of society as a whole should not receive any help from society.  This can apply to the very wealthy US and EU to the very impoverished areas of sub-Saharan Africa. 

If anything, sub-Saharan Africa is an example of what I was talking about.  The majority of the hardworking African populace has been forced to support parasitic colonial and corrupt indigenous regimes with their labors, leading to the unfortunate state Africa is in now.  I think that if any country adopted my philosophy, and didn't tolerate and support parasitic individuals be they resource wasting thieves and drug addicts to the very wealthy and corrupt leaders like Robert Mugabe, Africa would be a very prosperous continent.  They are after all blessed with extreme mineral and plant resources.

Thus, I don't see how my remarks fit any of those.  I'm talking about groups within one society, such as when a person makes national policies. 

I also never referred to any particular country by name, and meant by the terms "society" and "state" to make it clear I was talking about any hypothetical country.  Nor did I refer to any ethnic or religious group, and my circle of friends would make it clear to you that I'm no racist or bigot.

How I am being fascist also escapes me.  Just because I'm more utilitarian and less humanitarian in my views on the role of government doesn't make me a fascist.  I've also never used any reference to any political group, individual, or philosophy (with the obvious exception of communism and capitalism).

Here are more issues to consider: Why did communism fail and would you say that capitalism has failed in many of the areas in the world where it resides? Capitalism is a very unstable system and many people think that it will ulimately fail ad that we will revert to socialism.

It is unacceptable to believe that the poor are weak and deserve their fate. Why don't you read the Codes of Conflict, it violates it,  it's absurd.

6. Nationalism, derogatory remarks to national or ethnic groups, jingoism, bigotry, racism, political propaganda.

By defending fascism and social Darwinism you are condoning racism, because that is what they imply. This is nothing personal, I just think his comments are offensive and I think that it should at least be brought to his attention. Don't compromise the integrity of this forum.

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Originally posted by Genghis I would say "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" is a stupid, weak-mongering idea.  It should read "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his abilities".  No one should get anything because they "need" it, they should get it because they have shown themselves valuable enough to society to warrant society giving them what they receive.  A person who contributes nothing to society, like a homeless person or drug addict, might need food, but they don't deserve it because they do not work toward the good of the collective.  Such unproductive people are a blackhole of money for society and any society that strives to sustain them is like an ill person encouraging cancer, which is why I despise the theory of communism.

To Genghis:

I am not attacking you because I disagree with you. Your comments suggest that the poor are inherently weak human beings, which is a main feature of social darwinism and a main motivation for fascism. Is there any physical or mental distinction between a poor African and a rich wsterner? No, there isn't. You are lucky that I do not report you to an administrater because that is a derogatory comment and is despicable. You are no longer welcome on my thread. 

Why did I keep typing despite when I wanna type despise? haiz...
I'm too lazy to change it.

I think you guys are going to philosophical about exploitation etc etc. Masochists choose to be exploited...so...

I think he feels sympathetic to you if you say you despite a theory.

I despite a theory because it creates unproductive people.

Technically, Communism doesn't want to create unproductive people, and neither does capitalism. But capitalism has loads of unproductive people too. I see bums in People's Park in Berkeley. Do I despite capitalism? No.

I believe my philosophy is that I can take it if its great for the people. That's why Singapore is a mixture of Communism and Capitalism. They're practical people. They don't despise theories. They despise unproductivity.

How is it full of contradictions just because you disagree with it?

I would say "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" is a stupid, weak-mongering idea.  It should read "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his abilities".  No one should get anything because they "need" it, they should get it because they have shown themselves valuable enough to society to warrant society giving them what they receive.  A person who contributes nothing to society, like a homeless person or drug addict, might need food, but they don't deserve it because they do not work toward the good of the collective.  Such unproductive people are a blackhole of money for society and any society that strives to sustain them is like an ill person encouraging cancer, which is why I despise the theory of communism.

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A specter is haunting AE, the specter of sephodwyrm. All the Powers of old AE have entered a holy alliance to exorcise this specter: Cyrus and Janus, Cornelia and Dawn, crazy Asian history section and Turkish elite Yeni Ceries...

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as sephodwyrmic by its opponents in power? Where the Opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of Sephodwyrm, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

2 things result from this fact:
1. Sephodwyrm is alrady acknowledged by all AE Powers to be himself a Power.
2. It is high time that sephodwyrm should openly, in the face of the new AE, publish my own view, my aim, my tendency and meet this nursery tale of the Specter of Sephodwyrm with a Manifesto of Sephodwyrm himself.

To this end, followers of Sephodwyrm of various nationalities have assembled in the (soon to be created) Sephodwyrm section and sketched the following Manifesto to be published in all language so that you sorry good for nothings can read them.

Bow before my will. Overthrow the self proclaimed Empress of the Universe! Destroy her vassals! Down with the Shah! Down with the Emperor! Down with the Sultan! Up Sephodwyrm.

Bored and self-deluded ones of all forums, unite!

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