For you religious nuts: Do babies have souls?

No, agnosticism is connected with existence or not of divinity, souls may exist or not unconnected with any divinities. Imagine that - the Indian Brahman, a world-soul, an ocean of souls, that get born into people and after their deaths go again into that ocean - such a concept doesn't require one divinity of Christian type, or any divinity at all.
This is one of the possible possibilities that possibly can exist. That's why I say that I believe in the existence of souls, because from I've read and experienced there is more to humans that body and mind, it seems that we come with something in this life, no matter how one is going to call it - i call it "soul".

As for agnosticism, it's more like  waiting to see what is, instead of believing that god does or doesn't exist; it doesn't require faith in one way or the other, while both theism and atheism require faith - one that divinity exist, the other that it/they don't. So this is what I do - after trying both I settled on reading both parts and waiting to see what happens. Bit this has nothing to do with the existence of souls.

Besides, proof is a very elusive thing - one person may see an angel and not believe it, another believes that angels exist never seeing one; the first would not accept the something even if he sees it, the second doesn't need to see anything to accept it - it depends on the way of thinking of thr particular people.

I am an agnostic but I believe that babies have souls, from the moment they are conceived; from where those souls came and what happens to them after death is another question. So, it's not necessary one to be religious to think over the question of souls, nor to be a nut.

They use the toilet CV,long time ago!Ecology comes from animals,they alarm us.

For us maybe,but ancient writers used it very well!Post me link of Arabic with Latin letters and good phonetics!Our,Hebrew and Your language have to have same roots&Close!Ancient Egyptian.

How old was the Prophet when he die?

Why 33,please explain?

Originally posted by Zagros So, we are traditionally led to believe that when we die we either go to heaven or hell or some such place... though in what state? As a consciousness?  Well, most cultists would contend that we would either descend or ascend in that state.  So what about babies?  They have no consciousness beyond that encompassing feeding, pooing, sleeping, feeding, pooing and sleeping.  Are they doomed to spend eternity in such a state? Without knowing wtf is going on... ever?

I'm not going to really address this from a religious point of view because I'm not religious, but why would a baby be doomed? If it's living in an innocent state what is it seeking which would change that state of innocence? If the baby knows no other way would it even feel doomed? 

Huh? Accuracy in favor of political correctness? I must have missed that admission. Would you share that with us? Omar, these are interpretatioins and a few tafsirs. It's in English for God's sake. Do you think the old english style of Ali is more pleasant to your ears? Not miine. And lastly Ali and Pickthall were not free of bias.  What gave you that impression?

No they are not free from their own biases. But they didn't set out to do a "Reformist Translation", they set out to do an accurate one, and are thus not worried about things such as "a non-sexist understanding".
You'd actually be hard pushed to show much sexism in Ali's work anyway.

As for the underlined section, any reasonable translation will use the logic of the Quran as the ultimate authority, although there really isn't anything wrong with using our ancient patriarchal scholars opinions as an aid. They are just as good as the next mans.

Do you think the old english style of Ali is more pleasant to your ears?

Actually yes, I do like that to be honest. But I can see that type of King James English being a tad difficult to understand for most people.

Is the soul of a baby different from the soul of an adult?

Originally posted by Super Goat (^_^) Have you read those translations Seko? and if so, would you provide an instance where they'd have a significantly different translation of a text compared to another version. Thank you.