Aztlan

Originally posted by pinguin Originally posted by eaglecap ...I have studied California history and when the US took this lands there were about 3-4,000 Mexicans living in what is now the state of California. There were about 160,000 California Indians who were constantly having skirmishes with the Spanairds and later Mexican colonist. Sadly, after the Americans came the population of the California Indians dropped to about 17,000. ... � Yes, it is very sad that after "Americans" settled in Mexican lands, suddendy the Indian population dropped quite fast. � Curiosly, it seems that once Americans arrive to Indian territory, like magic, 90% of Indians dissapear in thin air. I bet those are the sources of the 90% of the Indians that some repeat constantly and blame upon infectious disseases. � I wonder why with the Hispanics and Spaniards it wasn't the same � I bet it was just a coincidence. Or perhaps the bacterias that carried the "Americans" were stronger than the ones carried by average Mexicans and Spaniards. There must exist some scientific theory that explains it. � Yes, history is amazing and very instructive... And one can easily read between lines. �

I think there was also some interbreeding but it was mostly disease that sadly killed them off. I have Iriqouis roots but it goes back a ways and it is a nice conservation piece about our family roots. My relatives did the research for the family tree.

Interresting topic...

I have noticed there's a tension sometimes in the US between Latin vs European descending people. What stroke me last summer I was there, was that I asked something a woman working at the airport and I got an answer in Spannish. She understood everything I said but refused to answer in English.

However, there's a reality some people have to accept. The US is a multicultural society where certain groups were invaded externally and internally. There will be always a tention within certain groups because of that. Basically history repeats itself in the US as it did in other places. As for the illegal immigrants, a discussion circulating a lot...Every sensible person i met, told me that the truth is that they do the job nobody else want to do. They also told me that their desperation that drives the to immigrate is a result of regimes that were supported before by the US.

I read somewhere that Aztlan is supposed to be synonymous with Atlantis.  Does anyone buy that?

I work in the trades, in carpentry. And the contractors I've met don't like the Illegals coming in, both Mexicans and Polish are coming in huge numbers. The Mexicans are hired by Americans and the Polish seem to set up their own business and bring in a bunch of their friends, work for a few years and return home. I believe Mexicans do the same in regard of going home after awhile. The problem is that it's never ending, they keep coming in and with more numbers, and the Contractors trying to stay honest lose out because they can price the numbers of their competitors.

Originally posted by pinguin   Another fact. In the past people in the Americas received immigrants with a happy face. Today they are seen as a nuisance everywhere.

Edited by Crystall - 11-Dec-2007 at 06:22

we are all as smart as our brains allow us, im sure they will succeed, but that is where its good for america, immigrants creating wealth its a marvellous thing.

the difference between me and my brother on a base level is 0.02 percent.

i agree totally pinguin, i meant both and all sets, the extreme of anything

i pitty the mothers that raised such fools, race is a myth,

its been our experience that immigrants when invited and welcomed create wealth, the asians from uganda, invitations to the caribbean, and now eastern europeans.