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    Posted: 17-Dec-2010 at 16:56
My dear Hunter, it is my beliefs that underline the "loopholes" in the currently followed chronology!

I merely show the points of contention, defenders merely "defend" the old views!

Redclay and I have bantered for a long time in a similar manner! We certainly do not need dirty invictives to make clear our distain for others beliefs!

I do not really know the man, do I cannot dislike him, but I have read some of his attacks upon me, and I know that he serious about his beliefs!

Certainly I feel I hold him in more esteem than he does me!

The same can also be said of DreamWeaver!

There is an old proverb; "Don't come to a gunfight armed only with a knife!"

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Dec-2010 at 21:25
Play nice children.
 
Or at least use some real insults.
 
 
Though if you want my opinion (and I'm sure no one does) calm down and think about, find loopholes in each other theories (shouldn't be hard).


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Dec-2010 at 16:03
To Dream Weaver, if he indeed still lurks in the shadows!

http://books.google.com/books?id=0YdJAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA438&lpg=PA438&dq=antonio+acciaiuoli&source=bl&ots=4fpn4demDe&sig=D8ewfwkc3fnHyeUlkHtq5nO_8SQ&hl=en&ei=6U0KTZFsw_3wBq3m8Z8B&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=antonio%20acciaiuoli&f=false

Back it up to page one, etc.!

Please read all of this site? If you wonder why I consistantly mentioned "ancedote", or "assumptions", or "point of view", etc., in a lot of my postings, then this site might well explain my views?

I could have used the word "perhaps", in the above sentence, but the site above uses it enough for both of us!

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Nov-2010 at 14:57
Dear red clay, I don't really expect you especially to take me seriously! You would be the last person for me to make any type of impression upon!

You are stuck in your ways and beliefs, and refuse to even consider anything that could bring down the stone walls of your beliefs!

Have you every tried growing your "tomatoes", (I just loved that Vice President), in a water solution?

It is caled "hydro" something!

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I have actually wasted 5 times the amount of energy on this subject than it's worth.  There are no connections here.  Fomenko's theories are a pile of crap that no one ever paid much attention to.  If you want to believe this silliness, you go right ahead.  Just don' expect anyone else to take you seriously. 
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2010 at 21:48
The "Tomato Master" earlier wrote these words which can be found above; "I find it amusing that whenever anyone responds to Fomenko's idiocy in a negative light, then they haven't read Fomenko's gargle. Not only are his ideas crap but he then goes on to try and prove his nuttiness by using statistical equations. The problems arise when you try and use those same equations to prove his math. DWNH!!!! [Don't Work No How"

Dear "master", I just don't think that you are able to understand connections? Fomenko makes literally hundreds of connections, most quite simple and "matter of fact" that connect our modern view of historography to reality!

That is this "group" lists connection after connection that ties past actions now considered seperated by hundreds of thousands of years, as a composit of one semi-real history that happened in the period of our currently considered past as 1000 CE to 1700 CE, or neary by!

I just fail to see how anyone (with a modicom of intelligence) can read page after page of such connections which are found in Vol's I and II of "History; Fiction or Science" without becoming a believer?

At best, it is only because these people have not really read the material, but they have merely dismissed it based upon the opinion(s) of others, who probably have also not really read the material!

The easy way out for people like this is to denigrate the intelligence of both those who might well support the Fomenko theory, as well as diminish the intelligence of, or the specialty, of those who instigated the theory!

I am just proud that I do not have to reply in kind!

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PS; Emeritus, meaning;

"adj.
Retired but retaining an honorary title corresponding to that held immediately before retirement: a professor emeritus.

n., pl., -ti (-tī').
One who is retired but retains an honorary title corresponding to that held immediately before retirement.

[Latin ēmeritus, past participle of ēmerērī, to earn by service : ē-, ex-, from; see ex- + merērī, to deserve, earn.]"


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2010 at 18:32
I guess I have created a popular site? Lots of posts! Mayabe it is even making some of you really reasses your ideas and beliefs?

If so, then I am making some headway!

The word "headway" is an old nautical word or description of a vessel in the water that is making "Way" or progress! Head, is when they are actually making "way" in or at the "heading" (a compass point) that the sailor desires!

So maybe this sailor is indeed "making way?"

I will continue to make some postings designed to make you think, and guide you towards some new understanding of both the past, and those who really wrote the past, and their motives, etc.!

By the way, I would ask you to disregard that man in the corner, under the blanket, pulling the levers! (some of you might even know why I wrote the prior sentence? ) He is but a "land-lubber!", and knows of nothing but horses, and horse excretement, etc.!

I would rather take some of you upon a "Sea Voyage" of a type! It is full of "Peoples from or of the Sea or Isles!", as well as others!

Here you will be asked to consider, wether or not, Venice can be considered as the same as Phoenice? Or "Phrygia" the same as "Frigia?" Amongst other wonderful things!

So, for those of you with "open minds", please continue to read this space; and again, please ignore those people waving their hands, pulling upon levers, and turning dials, etc., in the corner!

They are merely "palm readers!", or magicians! Their magic is old and pervasive in the World today! But, they were and still are, merely a bunch of Charlatans! And the noise they make is merely "Chatter!"

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2010 at 16:47
Well I guess Red, I should apply for graduate school right away? I would suggest that you read an old book that helped a lot of people a number of years ago, it is entitled "How to Win Friends and Influence People!", perhaps in your superb studies you might even have heard of it?

Actually my wife majored in accounting! Yes, life is Hell!

Continuing thanks for your support!

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Originally posted by DreamWeaver

I have researched enough into Formenko to gain an understandingof his crap theories and how immensely invadiated it is.

You have a massive chip on your shoulder about academia dont you. Insecurities coming through there. What did Academics kill your family or something?
 
 
I find it amusing that whenever anyone responds to Fomenko's idiocy in a negative light, then they haven't read Fomenko's gargle.  Not only are his ideas crap but he then goes on to try and prove his nuttiness by using statistical equations.  The problems arise when you try and use those same equations to prove his math.  DWNH!!!! [Don't Work No How]
 
What did Academics kill your family or something?  Big smileLOLLOLClap
 
No, he was gang audited by Hells Accountants.  The more educated you are, the less likely you are to believe this stuff. 
 
 
 
 
 
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I actually grew up on a college campus, and received a BS degree from same! I attended grammar and middle school on the same campus, with the children various professors as my class mates!

We were a very potent and sometimes evil team! We even had an important job at that time! We were the final line in those college students who wanted or desired to become a teacher, had to go thru to graduate!

We made numerous candidates change their major! And, of that, I am proud that I helped wean the system of stupidity, and weakness!

But, brother DW, just how did your love affair with academics began and how is it now?
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I have researched enough into Formenko to gain an understandingof his crap theories and how immensely invadiated it is.

You have a massive chip on your shoulder about academia dont you. Insecurities coming through there. What did Academics kill your family or something?
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2010 at 20:16
DW wrote;

"I am aware of Fomenko, he is an idiot when it comes to history. His theory is bollocks quite frankly, he is insane."

So, I will have to assume that you have not read one word of his multiple books? Since your reaction is exactly the same as others who have yet to read anything by him and is consorts!

Is there really such a thing as "mass hysteria?"    I never thought so until the word Fomenko is used around an historian!

Gee, one would suspect that to have that kind of reaction to a simple theory, one must have been thoroughly immersed in the study of the theory? But, perhaps not?

So quickly go before your academic counselor and confess your crimes! Then beg forgiveness? I know they will be shocked to know that you even spelled the word Fomenko, but I am sure you will not be kicked out of school, for such a small mistake!

So, go proudly back into those hallowed halls of education, where new ideas are easily discussed in an open and fair display of facts and theory!

Sorry DW, I just could resist the opportunity to impugn the educational system as it really exists, which is mostly a closed society of stuck up snobs, etc.

Go in peace!

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  Quote DreamWeaver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2010 at 18:07
I am aware of Fomenko, he is an idiot when it comes to history. His theory is bollocks quite frankly, he is insane. No matter how good his maths might be he is certainly no historian. Mathmaticians should stick to maths and historians to history.

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2010 at 16:21
God, you are irritating! Always prompting me to get to the point!

By the way "The Point" a made for TV cartoon production, with songs and lyrics by the late and great musician, song writer Harry Nilsson, is a wonderful example of good TV! A must watch by everyone, and especially everyone with a child! Ca. 1974!
There I go again, not getting to the "Point!"

Sorry DW, but my "point" is so complicated and involved that I just cannot come right out and "point" it out to you or anyone else! I'm not even sure that I know it!

But, if you have read most all of my postings on this site, and especially in the "Alternative history" section, then you must know that it has to concern the position of A. Fomenko, etal!

So, to enable me to make a point of some kind, I would need to know, just what do you know about Fomenko, and his/their theory?

A PM would probably be preferable to both you and me!

I do seem to have developed some refinement of the theory, as well some types of proof!

It would do your career little good to become outwardly interested in the theory however! As long as you stay incognito, you should be OK!
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By Yog-Sothoth get to the point!

Curently you are just going about in pointless and self evident word connections.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2010 at 22:02
One might well also look to this site;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_V_of_Aragon

Where, if you are a believer in true Latin, you might well see this section?

"Like a true prince of the Renaissance he favoured men of letters whom he trusted to preserve his reputation to posterity. He founded the Academy of Naples under Giovanni Pontano and, for his entrance in the city in 1443, had a magnificent triumphal arch added to the main gate of Castel Nuovo. This edifice, considered the most important civil piece of art of the time, was designed by Francesco Laurana. His devotion to the classics was exceptional even for the time.

For example, Alfonso halted his army in pious respect before the birthplace of a Latin writer, carried Livy or Caesar on his campaigns with him, and his panegyrist Panormita even stated that the king was cured of an illness when a few pages of Quintus Curtius Rufus' history of Alexander the Great were read to him. However, the classics had not refined his taste, for he was amused by setting itinerant scholars, who swarmed to his court, to abuse one another in the indescribably filthy Latin scolding matches which were then the fashion."

All I can do when reading the above is to laugh!

I.e., "the indescribably filthy Latin scolding matches which were then the fashion."

Can any of you imagine such?




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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2010 at 21:30
You might well want to consider this?

http://reverso2.com/ri45r/ASP/url/result.asp?directions=1034$1033$1&autotranslate=on&motsinconnus=false&templates=General&url=http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernat_de_Rocafort

It is, I am afraid, a bad translation, but it might well give some one of you some clues?

As might this, which has no translation associated;


http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Compa%C3%B1%C3%ADa_Catalana

And this;
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducado_de_Atenas

And this;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_III_of_St_Omer

Whom Fomenko would likely support as the author of the Illiad, etc.!

From the above post you will see this;

"When Philip left later that year for Italy, to settle his claim to Piedmont, Nicholas was appointed bailiff in his absence."

I would suggest that you compare the word "Bailiff" with "Sheriff", as well as "Gautier" or "Waltier", etc.?

Then you look for these words (meaning the same thing) within the so called names of others!

Also you might read this?

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06624b.htm

Just how many ways can one spell "Hughes?"

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Back to my basic premise, I will offer you this site;

http://reverso2.com/ri45r/ASP/url/result.asp?directions=1034$1033$1&autotranslate=on&motsinconnus=false&templates=General&url=http://www.berenguerderocafort.com/

And this connecting one;

http://www.berenguerderocafort.com/devils.htm

I certainly feel that the area we refer to as Greece today, was considerably different in the past than the Greece we refer today!

There seems to have existed some basic connection of medieval Greece and the Almogavers of Spain, and the Knights Templar?

Perhaps one of you knows the connections or answers?

All I can do is posit sites whereby some one might make a connection, or even a paper for consideration of graduation?

The very name of one of the most famous leaders of the Catalan Company in Eastern Europe and Greece, is Roger/Rogier de"Flor or even Rogier vonBlum(e)!"

One can also very well consider that this name could also easily be translated as "Of Florence/Forenzia", etc.!

One must as well know that I consider the words "Gautier, and variants to Waltier or Walter, etc." as also names of a position rather than the name of a person proper!

And, as well Flor(ence) means "flower" and "flower" is the first word of the famous symbol of both France and Flanders called the "Fleur de Lis/Lys, etc.!"

Roger?



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Peking, a great choice! Wish I had been there? But, being Politically Incorrect, might have caused me the chance?

Funny, I don't think I have ever seen Beijing Duck on a menue!

But, I rarely eat a Chinese places which actually serve the dish!

I would be hard pressed to make just one distinction, but Paris might well have been my favorite city? But the last time I was there was in 1971! Very few Moslems there then! Perhaps it makes some difference today? Hong Kong in 1971 was also spectactular! The "Charlie, Charlie" approach to the old airport was wonderful!

But, in a general since, my voyage via the Grand Princess Cruise Ship, across the entire Med., from Barcelona to Istanbul, was perhaps my greatest adventure ever?

I would everyone on this site could also have a chance to experience it!

But, this entire thread has tended to get well away from the title, so I will stop at this point!
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