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snowybeagle
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Topic: 62nd anniversary of Hiroshima Posted: 02-Oct-2007 at 02:49 |
Originally posted by Sparten
There is a tradition on AE to chose a country not your own for your location. |
There is???!!!
I only know some AE members did it out of fun, I didn't know it became a tradition ...
Still, I'll stick to my own.
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Posted: 14-Oct-2007 at 07:01 |
Do you ever think that the bombings are justified? Do you ever think that the rape of nanking is justified? Do you every think that the holocaust is justified? Do you ever think that the invasion of China is justified? Do you ever think that the attack on poland is justified? Do you ever think that the firebombings on tokyo are justified? Do you ever think that the daily air raids are justified? Do you ever think that war is justified??
War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~Bertrand Russell
I dream of giving birth to a child who will ask, "Mother, what was war?" ~Eve Merriam
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Garvm
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Posted: 23-Oct-2007 at 16:24 |
The problem with a war is that we dont know how it ends.
Of course some kind of actions are execrated for some people and justified for others.
In my opinion classify, in a kind of evaluation order, atrocities, is very dangerous, because someone thinks that a particular action is justified:
-"we slaughtered thousand of civilians, to instile terror in the hearts of our enemies, so they dont try attacking our troops".
-"we nuke two cities to spare the lifes of our brave soldiers"
Regarding to the theme of this topic, i wich to gave my respects to all inocent japanese victims of the A-bombs and of the despotism of Hirohito and his military leaders, and my homage to all brave soldiers of the allied forces that free the world of a evil regime.
... Above else we must be tolerant to each other opinions, and make everything to stop the wars!
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Posted: 02-Nov-2007 at 01:51 |
Paul Tibbets ( 23 February 1915 - 1 November 2007)
Commander of the 'Enola Gay'
...Like President Harry Truman who ordered the attack, Tibbets never expressed regret over his role, whatever the controversy that has raged ever since. It was his patriotic duty, he insisted, to carry out an attack that shortened the war.
"...I'm not proud that I killed 80,000 people, but I'm proud I was able to start with nothing, plan it and have it work as perfectly as it did," he said years later. "You've got to take stock and assess the situation at that time. We were at war, and you use anything at your disposal. There are no Marquess of Queensberry rules in war". And, he added, "I sleep clearly every night."...
This time your sleep will be longer.
RIP
Edited by Desperado - 02-Nov-2007 at 02:01
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longshanks31
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Posted: 04-Nov-2007 at 15:52 |
its a pity the americans stopped at two
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Lmprs
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Posted: 04-Nov-2007 at 16:35 |
its a pity the americans stopped at two |
You think that sounds pretty cool, don't you?
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Posted: 04-Nov-2007 at 16:39 |
Americans only have two...
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longshanks31
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Posted: 04-Nov-2007 at 18:10 |
i dont think they would have stopped at two given first chance, they hit pearl harbor and they were not even at war, two showed great restraint.
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Justinian
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Posted: 05-Nov-2007 at 02:11 |
^^ As far as I know we only had two.
Also it was just as effective to fire bomb the hell out of all their major cities. No one would be stupid or stubborn enough to keep resisting after two atomic weapons unless you are hitler who thinks his entire country should become a crater because it failed your designs.
Their emperor wanted peace, even with the military wanting to continue until the country was dead, the people would follow him not them. All he needed to do was get the word out and that was that.
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longshanks31
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Posted: 05-Nov-2007 at 10:08 |
i mean japan of today i love, theres not a much more enlightened and forward thinking race on the planet, but in 1945 it must have been tempting to the yanks to reduce it to a no go zone.
i mean id have sent 5 or 6 just incase the two i intended got shot down on route.
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Posted: 05-Nov-2007 at 22:00 |
Oh, if that had happened I would imagine we would have waited to develop more and then use them. (not including the russian impact; whether they would just invade and conquer Japan, they had no qualms about casualties like the US did) We really did not want to invade the mainland with the marines and army because the casualties projections were, bottom line, incredibly high.
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longshanks31
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Posted: 06-Nov-2007 at 18:24 |
yes it would have been a logistical nightmare getting supplies to them after the initial beachhead was formed, it would have been ten times more difficult than d-day
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long live the king of bhutan
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