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    Posted: 12-Jun-2008 at 20:23

See previous page for the latest Top 100 and additions.  The "scores" through France so far:

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Bold Italic Underlined: 3 or more in the top 100.
Bold: 4 or more rated (there are over 350 rated so far).
Italic: No leaders worth rating.
 
 
List of Countries Top 100 Top 200
Abbasid Caliphate 1 2
Aceh 0 0
Adal 0 0
Afghan 1 1
Ahom 1 4
Akkad 1 1
Albania 1 1
Algeria 0 0
Almohads 1 1
Almoravids 1 2
Angles 0 0
Aquitaine 0 0
Arabs 3 6
Aragon 0 0
Arakan 0 0
Argentina 0 1
Armenia 1 1
Ashanti 0 0
Assyria 3 4
Athens 0 1
Âu Lạc 1 1
Australia 0 0
Austria/Habsburgs 2 3
Austro-Hungary 0 0
Avars 0 1
Axum 0 0
Ayyubids 1 1
Aztec 2 2
Babylon 2 3
Banten 0 0
Bavaria 1 2
Belgium 0 0
Bengal 0 0
Benin 0 0
Boer 0 0
Bohemia 0 1
Bolivia 0 0
Bornu 1 1
Brazil 0 0
Briton 0 0
Brittany 0 0
Brunei 0 0
Bulgar 0 1
Bulgaria 3 9
Burgundy 0 2
Burma 0 1
Buyid 0 1
Byzantine 5 9
Cambodia 0 0
Canada 0 0
Carthage 1 2
Castile 1 2
Celts 0 0
Chad 0 0
Chagatai Khanate 0 0
Chalukya 1 3
Champa 0 0
Cherokee 0 0
Chile 0 0
China 11 22
Chola 2 3
Chu 0 1
Colombia 0 0
Congo 0 1
Cordoba 1 2
Crete 0 0
Croatia 0 2
Crusader 1 1
Cuba 0 0
Cuman 0 0
Cyprus 0 0
Dacia 0 1
Dahae 0 0
Đại Việt 3 7
Dali 0 0
Delhi 2 4
Denmark 2 3
Dilmun 0 0
Dzungar 0 1
Egypt 7 14
Elam 1 3
England 4 14
Epirus 0 1
Ethiopia 0 2
Etruria 0 0
Fatimid 2 2
Fez 0 0
Finland 1 1
France 3 12


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Dilmun is on your list?  How?  Why?  We don't even know the location of Dilmun and it's only referenced in Sumerian/Akkadian literature.  How is it a candidate? 
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Originally posted by C.C.Benjamin

Dilmun is on your list?  How?  Why?  We don't even know the location of Dilmun and it's only referenced in Sumerian/Akkadian literature.  How is it a candidate? 


AFAIK, Dilmun was on Bahrain.  And no, there aren't any leaders for it since our history is so sparse.  I was attempting to write down every country/tribe of note I could to make sure I didn't miss any.  Obviously, once I got into researching Dilmun I found out there weren't any leaders known.
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Wasn't Ataturk one of the greatest leaders? He was the greatest leader of 20th century.
He was the leader who attacked imperialism first. He was a revolutionary, a great commander and a great president.
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Long Live Turkey, he founded!
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OK, you can relax now
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I'm suprised there are no Ottoman leaders.  Very surprised, unless one of our turkish members makes a submission, I'll be willing to give it a go.  It just seems off not to have at least one member of the Ottoman empire on there.
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Originally posted by Justinian

I'm suprised there are no Ottoman leaders.  Very surprised, unless one of our turkish members makes a submission, I'll be willing to give it a go.  It just seems off not to have at least one member of the Ottoman empire on there.


I was going through alphabetically and haven't gotten that far yet.  See the list of countries above to see what nations I have already done.  I haven't spent much time on this recently, working instead on the generals list.
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If you want to consider anyone from Canada, consider Lester B. Pearson. Although I believe the whole Suez Crisis wasn't as important as it's made it out to be, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his role in cooling it. Also for Canadians he:
 
- gave Canada a national identity by creating the maple leaf as a symbol
- ensured de Gaulle never visited Canada again after trying to incise Quebec (province) seperation from Canada
- reduced unemployment to its lowest rate with the Automotive Agreement with the USA
- introduced universal health care which all of us Canadians value
 
If any Canadian is going to make the list, it's him but it's up to you to determine if he stacks up against the infinite amount of other contenders. That's my two cents for Canada. Smile
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Originally posted by DSMyers1

Originally posted by Justinian

I'm suprised there are no Ottoman leaders.  Very surprised, unless one of our turkish members makes a submission, I'll be willing to give it a go.  It just seems off not to have at least one member of the Ottoman empire on there.


I was going through alphabetically and haven't gotten that far yet.  See the list of countries above to see what nations I have already done.  I haven't spent much time on this recently, working instead on the generals list.
Ah, that explains it.
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Originally posted by Jonathan4290

If you want to consider anyone from Canada, consider Lester B. Pearson. Although I believe the whole Suez Crisis wasn't as important as it's made it out to be, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his role in cooling it. Also for Canadians he:
 
- gave Canada a national identity by creating the maple leaf as a symbol
- ensured de Gaulle never visited Canada again after trying to incise Quebec (province) seperation from Canada
- reduced unemployment to its lowest rate with the Automotive Agreement with the USA
- introduced universal health care which all of us Canadians value
 
If any Canadian is going to make the list, it's him but it's up to you to determine if he stacks up against the infinite amount of other contenders. That's my two cents for Canada. Smile


Yeah, I looked at the Canadians.  Using the numerical system I am, it requires someone to make a pretty big splash to get on the list.  Here are the last 10 right now--considering where I am in the alphabet, they will probably all end up getting bumped off:
90 Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington  1769 1852 England
91 Richard I 1157 1199 Crusader
92 Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim 1867 1951 Finland
93 Pulakesi II   642 Chalukya
94 Idris Alooma   1603 Bornu
95 Canute the Great   1035 Denmark
96 As-Saffah 721 754 Abbasid Caliphate
97 Justinian I 482 565 Byzantine
98 Scipio Africanus     Rome
99 Hamilcar Barca 270 BC 228 BC Carthage
100 Mao Zedong 1893 1976 China

Lester Pearson isn't in that league, just on the ol' eyeball test.
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No argument here. LOL Good luck with the list.
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Please, no Canadians. Thumbs%20Down
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Originally posted by Paul Anthony

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sultan suleyman the magnificient,great alexander,cenghiz khan,napoleon bonaparte,queen victoria,adolf hitler,amir temur are several of top 100 my favourites
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The Top 100 Leaders Current Excel File (updated November 4, 2008): Leaders.xls (Includes Macros)


The Top 100 Leaders Quantitative Formula: Top 100 Leaders Formula 3.pdf


I haven't made any new changes, but if anyone wants to help out, feel free to work on this!  In the Excel file are lists of what nations have been worked on this far.
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Originally posted by DSMyers1

The Top 100 Leaders Current Excel File (updated November 4, 2008): Leaders.xls (Includes Macros)


The Top 100 Leaders Quantitative Formula: Top 100 Leaders Formula 3.pdf


I haven't made any new changes, but if anyone wants to help out, feel free to work on this!  In the Excel file are lists of what nations have been worked on this far.
 
What do you think of adding William the Silent? The father of the Netherlands? He led the Dutch provinces together for 20 years against the Spanish, protecting them from Religious persecution until his assasination in 1584.
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Surprised the lack of prominent Greeks.

No Pericles?

No Alcibiades?

No Themistocles?

Themistocles should DEFINITELY be on the list of great leaders in my opinion, and the other two are worthy of consideration also.
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King Gustavus The Great of Sweden. Single handedly responsible for the "Golden Age of Sweden" which also earned him the epithet "The Golden King". During his reign, Sweden rose from the status as a mere regional power to one of the most powerful countries in europe.

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What about Joan of Arc?


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Hello to you all
 
About the leaders, here are some notes that need to be taken about the Arabs:
 
1- Al-Saffah: He doesn't deserve to be on the list, he was just a puppet for his uncles, brother and henchmen. Abu Jaafar Al-Mansur should be on the list, he is the one who really founded the dynasty and stengthened it by ending all external and internal threats and he also built Baghdad and started the translation movement.
 
2-Saladin: He also doesn't deserve to be on the list either. His legacy was limited to a part of the world and was not lasting, unless you count the Mamelukes.
 
3-Khalid Ibn Al-Walid: He was a military genious but that is it.
 
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