Originally posted by Beylerbeyi
There would be no welfare, no minimum wage, no social security, no decent healthcare anywhere in the world. Child labour would be commonplace everywhere. There would have been no limit in working hours, or overtime payment, and we'd work 12 hours per day. The rich would have been richer and the poor would have been poorer. Up to here anarchists are also responsible (they can be considered communists in the sense Marx used the term anyway), and to a lesser degree, other socialists.
Also there would have been no government-owned industries or services nor any economic planning. No working class-based parties or politics. Even the 'working class' itself is a communist invention. Until Marx there were 'working classes' which were thought to have little in common, not a single self aware political subject. In many countries, women wouldn't have had the rights they have today, or they would have gained them only recently in many places. Many a third world country would have emerged from imperialist rule much later, if at all.
Nazis would have invaded Europe and have dominated it (without the Soviet industrialisation no way in hell Soviets would have won that war). Millions would have been killed. The map of the world would be quite different. On the other hand, considering how much the fascist movement owes (i.e. stolen from) to the communist mass-mobilization politics, maybe there would have been no nazis in the first place, just some typical repressive conservative regime instead. |
YOU BET!
I could not agree more.
Communist was born because of the injustices of that the Industrial Revolution produced on the working class. Without that reaction, the worker would still lack all social security and rights they have today.
Workers would be treated like today they are in China, India and other third world manufacturing paradises: without any human respect at all.
And, perhaps, without the competition for supremacy, the space race woud have not happened, people had not reached the moon, and satellites won't exist.
Pinguin