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Topic: What if St. Peter's in Rome is not really Ancient? Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 09:05 |
Here you have a lot of official links that confirms story from above:
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 13:10 |
Depiction of a procession in St.Peter's square 1546 (Basilica is on the left);
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 13:15 |
The Seven Churches of Rome 1575 (detail);
Full image; http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/395040
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 13:20 |
The Pilgrims Meet Pope Cyriac Before The Walls Of Rome – Vittore Carpaccio 1493;
http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/vittore-carpaccio/the-pilgrims-meet-pope-cyriac-before-the-walls-of-rome-1493#close
In which appears an obscured image of the Basilica?;
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 13:25 |
1489 painting by Hans Memling; Pope Cyriacus receives Saint Ursula at the Basilica. Not a grand view of the building, but how part of it was meant to look (inside & out);
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 19:17 |
Image of St.Peters in 1588;
http://www.romeartlover.it/SistoV1.html
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 19:25 |
1474 plan of Rome by Alessandro Strozzi;
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 19:31 |
Taddeo di Bartolo's map of Rome painted 1412-1415 (St.Peters at bottom right):
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 19:38 |
Detail from a map of Rome by Pietro del Massaio, 1472;
A bit bigger;
http://arts.muohio.edu/faculty/benson/Michelangelo%20Site/SistineHistory.html
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 19:56 |
St.Peters in a book illumination from 1456;
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 20:21 |
Images of the Basilica from 14th - 16th Century do not show a Gothic structure. Are you sure your image is depicting St.Peter's?
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 22:44 |
Originally posted by Sidney
The Seven Churches of Rome 1575 (detail);
Full image; http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/395040 |
Wow, Sidney I did not know anything this weird existed! Thanks! Ron
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 22:55 |
Well Sidney, if indeed your "seven churches" is legit, then the author knew nothing about North, South etc. But the look of the St. Peter's seems to be the New One, the one seen today.
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 23:14 |
Yes Sidney, the representation of St. Peter's Basilica from my address does confirm that via the angles or degrees of the angles, which is basic geometry, that the only place within the area of larger Rome. could only be from a rear-ward view of the Basilica and the view of Rome beyond!
And thanks to you, you have added additional material that I have never encountered! You are amazing!! congratulations..
My highest regards!!!!!!!!!!!! Ron
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 23:20 |
Sidney! If I could transmit monies via this site then I would. If I could transmit kisses, then "I would kiss you!"
Wow! What good (new to me) information, you have provided!
So, I ask you! What do you think?
Regards, Ron
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 23:32 |
Sidney! I am sure you see the same things as do I? That is there are "steep steps" rather than a long leisurely bunch of steps leading into the "Basilica?"
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Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 23:34 |
Hell! Sidney, we or you? might well solve these problems?
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Posted: 09-Dec-2013 at 18:58 |
Its been a pleasure looking for these images - it seems they've not been collected together before. I won't make any comments on the structural changes until I've studied it a bit more. The trouble with some of the images is stylistic conventions in drawing, and whether they were eye-witness views or made up from eye witness accounts or just pure imagination.
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