Ancient & modern Greeks

With your votes  I want you to say your thoughts about this issue(with prooves,please)

The Ancient greeks is a bad word. I would say this. Most Ancient greeks are todays Anatolyan turks. Many like alexxander are bulgarian. The south greek like spartha and athen are greek. So ypu cant say yes and no to this queston. Also a lot of todays greeks are turks. they are tribes that went to turkmenistan to greece. the turks killed a lot of people and took their land. 99% of todays greeks could be ancestors of ancient greeks as well as 1%! You can never tell.

Dorians themselves believed to be the descendants of Hercules who where hunted down from Thebans. They took shelter then in Epirus's mountains and stayed there until 1200bc. The rest is known history.
As for the post saying that Greeks are Turks, what can I say? Unhistorical at least. I could say the same for Iranians that they are Arabs. So they seem to me. But are they? Of course not.
If the "modern" Greeks are descendants of the ancient Greeks?
You got to be Greek to know. Or at least to live in Greece.
But tell me pls.
If we (Greeks) are Turks, why don't we speak Turkish?
Why we have a sequence to "Byzantine" Greeks religion?
Why we teach our children the Greek history instead the Turkish and the Turks are our biggest enemy?
I better stop here.
thx



Edited by Vasilios II - 06-Sep-2006 at 06:58

Yes- this is a common misconception- Turkey is definatly and historically not Turkish.

The modern Hellenic nation is not an entirely modern formation, for it is based on much older cultural groups (ethnies). Greek ethnies (like Arvanites, Vlachs, Slavophones etc.) present "permanent cultural attributes" such as memory, value, myths and symbolisms. Hellenic ethnies present a common cultural origin descending from ancient Greece and Byzantium. For example, all Greek cultural groups believe in the myth of "Gorgona" who seeks to find Alexander the Great. That is to say, the modern Hellenic nation (in the beginning) was not "a community of citizens" but a "cultural" group.

Vlachs are Greeks.  They lived and still are in Ipeirous. Their language is  some kind of ancient Greek. They have absolutely no relationship with  Albanians or any other gentre.

Originally posted by Patrinos Akrita,what is the racial contribution of these ethnies according to your opinion? These ethnies you refered i think reach maximum a 10% of today's greek population.That some people adopted the hellenic idea that not reduce the hellenicity of the rest.

Edited by gcle2003 - 06-Sep-2006 at 13:16

Of course they are.

It can't be. Turkey is a country not a people.