Greece vs Turkey

Originally posted by iskenderani As i said Oguz...Natural born jesters.. Oguz wrote:  ### the Greek side's unwillingness to accept Turkish Cypriots' equality ### So Oguz , ur democratic sense equalises the 18% with the 82% ....Marvelous , brilliant ...the epitomy of how democracy must be and work.   Isk.

Correction.A population that has been SHRUNK to 18%

Originally posted by ak�nc� Originally posted by iskenderani Seko wrote : ### And when you get heated by my posts, you will know that it only comes from your so-called jester! I think that you are forgetting to acknowledge the Turkish side regarding unification now aren't you. Tisk! Tisk! Isk. ### Sure Seko ....except a tiny , but significant detail....i cant get heated by propaganda...i dont buy so easily ....I stay with facts....And facts , up to now , say that UN , EU , and every organization in the world have been acusing u for crimes , not the Greek Cypriots....Not even the Turkish Cypriots.....not even the Armenians ....not even ONE nation .....only just the Turks...well its only life and u will have to get used to it.Of course u have ur excuses...the problem remains though that nobody but u , do believe them.Fortunately , voices like Aksam and the Turkish diplomat Dirvana ( both dogs , for ur taste ) have started to rise. You stay with facts do you? What is European commission? Greece is a part of it but Turkey is out of it. It is something saying like "you see Greek parliament took the decision that Turkey is wrong in Cyprus case".

Man,how much political power do you think Hellas had and has in EU?Use the brain you have and think a little bit....

Originally posted by Spartakus Originally posted by ak�nc� Originally posted by Alparslan What is European commission? Greece is a part of it but Turkey is out of it. It is something saying like "you see Greek parliament took the decision that Turkey is wrong in Cyprus case". Who cares? Did Greece organize a coup d'etat in Cyprus in 1974? YES Did Greece want to annex Cyprus after this event? YES Did they kill Turkish civilians? YES Did Greek Cypriot regime since 1963 systematically support terrorist attacks on Turks? YES Did Turkey has the right to interven Cyprus as being one of the guarator state of Cyprus ? YES Did Turkey make an operation to Cyprus? YES Did Turkey save Turkish Cypriots? YES Did Turkey look for a peaceful solution? YES Did Turkey support United Nations' Annan Plan for unification? YES So what???   Don't push it alparslan they have proof.Empty charges..... The frog calls the chicken ugly......Man,you are not better.You do the same thing.You have not bring any worth discussing proofs .So think before you speak and do not accuse sb with things that you've also been doing.

In this case you are the chicken but i'm not the frog.I couldn't post a museum could i?Also whatever i wrote on the invasion you never answered me straight.I want strait answers:

Didn't Turkey attck when the Greeks started killing turks?

Wouldn't all Turks be dead if Turkey had not interfered?

Didn't solomous cross the border?

Didn't the Euoropeans reject the offer to protect cypriot rights?

Wouldn't Turkey be ruined if we hadn't agreed the Annan plan?

And the side that ruined peace was the Greeks?

Originally posted by ak�nc� J_L you are totally right so i will translate it for everone else: Never going back to 1974! (Ne mutlu t�rk�m diyene is sth like happiness to those that say i'm a turk) Our glorious army cyprus was turkish it'll stay turkish (the translation of osmanli's post)

Cyprus was turkish?

Unfortunately all you turks here have the wrong facts and your evidence for all these "slaughters" by Greeks comes from "The Turkish Massacre Musuem in Occupied Cyprus"

Im sure thats a great place to go for unbiased information

If Greek actually did have the power in the Eu that you claim they do, the Annan plan would not be so pro-turkish. You people invaded and butchered us and the Annan plan made US look responsible for your actions

Do you expect me to believe that turkishCypriots were only thinking of PEACE and not their own pockets when they accepted the annan plan? Be objective and not the brainwashed hateful mongrels that you are

 

Sorry Greeks. You blew your chances when you held power in your majority led government of Cyprus before the war. Because of terrible leadership the Island is split in two and will continue so unless real progress is made. Face the consequences and the future. Crying about your past wont change a thing. Never again will you have the say over Turks on Cyprus.

Of course it was a Turkish mission that, as a gauranture country, enforced their right and the outcome inevitably led to a split. Since the mission was not created in a vacuum, all the reasons for it have been presented in many previous posts from diverse people on this topic.

Edited by Seko

Originally posted by Yiannis Originally posted by Seko   Because of terrible leadership the Island is split in two a. Oh, I thought it was split in two because of the Turkish invasion. At least the last time I checked that was what the international community was saying and this is why the run-away "entity" is not recognized by anyone in the world (apart from Turkey). But, suit your self. What ever makes your day...

But it was the greeks that attcked so it was them who split cyprus

Akunsu wrote :

You stay with facts do you?

What is European commission? Greece is a part of it but Turkey is out of it.
It is something saying like "you see Greek parliament took the decision that Turkey is wrong in Cyprus case".

-So ? R u acusing EU of taking sides ?? Be serious...All of Greeks in EU r less than the London population...

Who cares?

-Who cares ?? The whole Europe cares + the UN ....

Did Greece organize a coup d'etat in Cyprus in 1974? YES

-Yes

Did Greece want to annex Cyprus after this event? YES

-No.....during this event , yes .Not after.

Did they kill Turkish civilians? YES

-Yes defending themselves....

Did Greek Cypriot regime since 1963 systematically support terrorist attacks on Turks? YES

-No.

Did Turkey has the right to interven Cyprus as being one of the guarator state of Cyprus ? YES

-Yes...to interfere NOT to occupy a part of Cyprus..

Did Turkey make an operation to Cyprus? YES

-Yes...the operation was succesfull , but the patient died....NO TURKEY COMMITED AN INVASION.

Did Turkey save Turkish Cypriots? YES

-Yes ...by killing Greek Cypriots.Turkey and Turkish attrocities r the main reason for the hate between the 2 communioties

Did Turkey look for a peaceful solution? YES

-No...Ntektash denied every solution presented by the UN....during 30 years..

Did Turkey support United Nations' Annan Plan for unification? YES

-Yes...being taillor made for Turkey...She would have denied any plan taillor made for the Greek Cypriots.

So what???

-Yes...So what ?

After these real facts you are still able to write posts and still defend your argument.That is not staying with facts but twisting them

-The real facts remain THAT NOONE OF U HAVE PRODUCED ANY UN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT SUPPORTING UR ARGUMENTS..All u produce , is propaganda made by u...someone said this , some other saw that...So Aku....keep mumbling as Seko did before u , as all of u r doing.Hard OFFICIAL facts r hard for u to find. But u can still dream ur own propaganda.

Isk.

 

 

Akunsu wrote :

Maybe not 30 but at least 25%.At least.And were did you get the immigrant information.That is unrealistic,impossible and not a respectable proof.

- Yes ..as i see u started a sales period ...Not 30% , 25% ....maybe 22% ?? Or the fact of 18% ??
-And u NEVER answered my question. DO 18% HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS WITH 82% ??? And in which Democracy have U EVER seen that ????

Isk.

Akunsu wrote :

Yes let them deserve slaughter poverty and hatred.How just of you.........

- No Aku....ur prolonged invasion got them in this corner. If there is one to blame , blame urselves. People generally deserve a better life , but again ..... is it democratic the minority to impose her will to the majority ??? U were not present in ur democratic lessons , and u know nothing about what the word "Democracy" means...

Isk.