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Topic: Names of the steppe people; anyone have a list? Posted: 14-Mar-2012 at 01:30 |
Originally posted by SirChristopher
That's quite alright, I should have clarified myself better. Where do you get your resources for names? I would really love a list of names with their meanings.
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Sorry, I don't have list as you wish, my sources are collection of many things. One of them is "Kişi Adları Sözlüğü" (Dictionary of Personal Names) by TDK(offical organisation of modern Turkish language) But you have to enter Turkish names (example: there is no solution for "Chagatai", you must right "Çağatay" ) and you can get answer just Turkish. There is also one huge limitation too. It involves only names which are still used. That's why, I couldn't answer all names in the topic. but website is here http://www.tdk.gov.tr/index.php?option=com_kisiadlari&view=kisiadlari
Edited by Ollios - 14-Mar-2012 at 01:30
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Posted: 14-Mar-2012 at 05:48 |
Originally posted by SirChristopher
Useful information, this. Have you a resource of commonly used words used in steppe names? Where they the same words as the language proper , or were names different from them? |
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Posted: 25-Mar-2012 at 02:20 |
List of ancient hungarian names used before 1000 AD. They are written more or less for english pronounciation.
Atsad
Adonj
Ajtonj
Akosh
Almos
Apor
Arpad
Baank
Batur
Bela
Betshe
Berenj
Bod
Bogat
Boyta
Bokonj
Borsh
Botond
Buda
Bultsu
Tsaba
Tsanad
Tsege
Eleud
Ete, Etele
Ezelek
Falitsi
Farkash
Hollosh
Hodosh
Huba
Jutotsa
Kadotsa
Kaal
Kaplony
Karad
Kartal
Katapaan
Ketsen, Kütsen
Keled
Keretse, Keretsen
Ketel
Keve
Kond
Koppany
Kursan
Lel (Lehel)
Levedi
Levente
Mako
Mike
Mishke
Njarad
Ond
Öden
Örkeny
Örkönd
Suur
Saboltch
Serend
Zoard
Solnok
Taksonj
Tarcal
Tarkatsu
Tash
Teveli
Turda
Tormatsu
Töhötöm
Uros
Vajk
Vaal
Vata (Vatha)
Zolta, Zoltan
Sholt
Zhombor
Female names
Ajandek
Ajnatska
Aldashka
Aranj
Arika
Barot
Bibour
Bogard
Bolda
Buga
Chiko
Chente
Cheperka
Chepke
Chillag
Chuda
Delin
Deva
Emeshe
Eneh
Fehera
Giluad
Hayna
Havadi
Hete
Hituand
Jolean
Carold
Keche
Cunche
Crabocha
Lelle
Lente
Mag
Manga
Mikolt
Nesta, Neste
Örsi
Öte
Piriska
Razdi
Reka
Sarolt
Virag
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Ollios
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Posted: 25-Mar-2012 at 21:53 |
Originally posted by benzin
List of ancient hungarian names used before 1000 AD. They are written more or less for english pronounciation.
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I can find just the names which still use in modern Turkish Batur: Brave person/ Hero Ör(prefix): Lofty/Sublime Tash(Taş?): Rock, stone Tsaba(Çaba?): effort Uros(Uras/Uraz): Luck
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Posted: 26-Mar-2012 at 04:18 |
The Secret History of the Mongols is a good place to look too. Pretty much everyone Genghis Khan ever met in his life is named in the book, and it's good mix of both Mongolian and Turkic names. You don't even have to read the whole thing, just look at the index.
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Posted: 26-Mar-2012 at 10:06 |
Its not surprising considering hungarians are called Türks (turqoi) in byzantine sources around the 9th century.
King Geza is called king of Turkia (hungary) in the 10th century.
Around half of these names has a türk or finno-ugrian origin. The other half, thats the question, they dont have any kind of meaning even in old hungarian or old türkic.
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Posted: 08-Aug-2012 at 02:43 |
Originally posted by Ollios
Originally posted by Snafu
Here's a few ancient Uighur names I've gleaned from a few books (including the one mentioned above)
Gokcho Toshtuk Joloi Saikal (fem) Chotai (fem) Sudai Bosku Kanish (fem) Chustuk Arik Ergak Kendshaka Otkurmish
There are also many names in the Secret History of the Mongols that are derived from Orkhon Turkish, the same dialect the ancient Uighurs spoke.
Monglik Alakush Kokochu Kishilik Boroldai Bai Shingqor Khatigun Bekter Goksagu
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First of all I have no experience about central Asian language. Turk, Azeri and Turkmen have same origin, It is very easy to understand Azeri as a Turk, so I will just focus on root words
Gokcho: Gok/Gök(modern turkish) means sky - Blue or Color like Blue in Mongolian Alakush: Ala means "mix coloured" and kush means bird
Saikal/Saykal means "who shows respect"
Arik means "agile person" - Arig means Holy in Mongolian
Suday: Sud means milk in old turkish(today süt), ay means moon - Famous in Mongolian
about boroldai, I have just found surname boruldai without meaning, but name birol means "being unique"
Borolday means Brown in Mongolian.
Medieval Mongolians were using colors in names often. for example:
Khukh - Blue - Khukhdei, Khukhuchu
Bor - Brown - Boralday
Tsagan - White - Tsagadai, Chagatai
Ulan - Red - Ulaan, Ulaadai
Shar, Shira - Yellow - Sharalday.
Khar - Black - Kharalday
Saaral - Grey - Saaral
Above names all for males and Dai, Doi, Tei, Tai ends are follows male names mostly.
Female names mostly got *-jin or *-chin ends.
Borogchin - Brown for female (sometimes used for a woman from poor family)
Naimanjin - Queen from Naiman tribe (name of Queen of Ogedei & mother of Guyug Khan)
Mongoljingoo - Mongolian Beauty
Bargujingoo - Beauty of Barga Tribe.
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Posted: 08-Aug-2012 at 02:49 |
That name is spread many countries modern Asia.
Bogatyr in Russia Bahadur in India and Pakistan Baatar in Mongolia
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Posted: 08-Aug-2012 at 21:41 |
Polish too. Their word for hero is "bohater".
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