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kotumeyil
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Topic: Where the Republic of Turkeys flag came from? Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 10:19 |
Phallanx wrote:
Istan: It is from the soot
Istan is not a word, but a suffix, meaning land. "From the soot" is "isten" comming from the root "is".
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Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 12:27 |
That is Turkish. I have no doubt you know Turkish.
But the "bul" in the name is from Persian origin as I told before. It means "bridge".
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Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 13:10 |
Originally posted by kotumeyil
Sorry Oguzoglu but this theory isn't reliable because istan is a suffix, not prefix. The word Istanbul seems to have Greek origins but it's not a problem because it's the name of our beloved city and we love it very much together with its history... |
Yep, ive heard the same like you sayed, also for Ankara that has greek roots...
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Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 13:12 |
kotumeyil
You obviously posted while I was in the middle of my search so I missed
your post. But as I said these are the translations I found online.
(links provided)
Since you obviously speak the lang. I'm ok with your explanation of it.
Oguzoglu
Again,
I never claimed to know Turkish, which is why I gave the links to the
translators. As for your 'bul' meaning 'bridge', a little search informed
me of the correct word which is "pul" as seen in "Pulisangin" that means "bridge on the Sanggan"
Based on the envelope I posted before and by using a bit of liguistic
facts,we find that you obviously place the letter 'I' in place-names
(not sure if it happens in other words also) when you find two
constonants.
We've discussed about Smyrna before, we find you turning the s-m into a z and by adding an i it gives Izmir.
If we look at the envelope, we see the exact same process. Before the s-t in Stamboul, you added the i again and it gave Istanbul.
I also found that it is also a Turkish linguistic custom of change the n before a p or b to m. 'eis thn Poli'.
Maybe kotumeyil or HulaguHan could help us out.
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Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 18:14 |
Yep, ive heard the same like you sayed, also for Ankara that has greek roots... |
That is totally wrong. Most of the city names in Anatolia arent from Greek, but from ancient Anatolian civilizations whose descendents are today mixed in the Turkish society, but not Greek.
Ankara comes from the word Angora, the capitol of Hittites, a Caucasian originated Anatolian people. Angora meant "the city of mohair goats". Like Chankiri, a neighbor city, which had a similar name.
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Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 19:37 |
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
Istanbul (Istanbul)
Istanbul (Istanbul)
Lyrics by Jimmy Stewart, music by Nat Simon.
Istanbul, not Constantinople!
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Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 20:27 |
I think that Komnenos has put a suiting musical "finale" in this
linguistic debate and now we can move on and find out about the flad
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Posted: 09-Jul-2005 at 14:43 |
nice kommensos
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Posted: 09-Jul-2005 at 15:32 |
Nice song.
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Posted: 09-Jul-2005 at 18:35 |
Originally posted by Midas
I read that Turkish flag had taken from Byzantines; and they took it from older Anatolian Civilizations... What is the real story of that flag? |
It might have some link with Islam, too.
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Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 02:59 |
Islamic flags:
http://www.idicweb.net/id294.htm
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Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 12:59 |
Originally posted by Kapikulu
Originally posted by Midas
I read that Turkish flag had taken from Byzantines; and they took it from older Anatolian Civilizations... What is the real story of that flag? |
It might have some link with Islam, too.
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some say that the Turkish flags moon and star presents something in Islam, but how it could be presenting Islam if this flag taken from a ancient Anatolian civilation??
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