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Topic: Persian Words in Turkish Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 04:37 |
What are Turkish, Persian, Arabic words for "History"?
http://www.al-islam.org/al-serat/hijrah.htm : The Persians have a (method of) calculation which they call mahroz and which they ascribe to their Sassanid rulers. The word mahroz was arabicized as mu'arrakh, and the infinitive ta'rikh was formed from it.
Mah=Month & Roz=Day
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 04:55 |
Originally posted by kotumeyil
Desk --- Persian = MIZ---------Turkish = Masa
Book --- Persian = Ketab---------Turkish = kitap
Talking --Persian = Harf zadan------Turkish = Konushmak
Love -- Persian = Esgh (pronounced eshk)--------Turkish = ashk
Tear ---Persian = Ask------- Turkish = yash
Sea ---Persian = Darya-------- Turkish = Deniz/Derya
Mountain, Hill ---Persian = Tepe/ Ku-------Turkish = Dagh, tepe
Prison ---Persian = Zendan------Turkish = Hapishane, zindan
Cat/ Dog/ Horse/ Lion/ Elephant/ Bird/ Monkey
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Kedi/Kpek/Arslan/Fil/Kush/Maymun |
you forgot Horse ![](smileys/smiley2.gif) it is At.
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 10:44 |
Wow i find it soo interesting how in middle east all languages have relationship and intermingled, even though you find three main language groups being semetic, altaic and indo-european, there is a sense of harmoney in the languages I think it is a: due to persian influence in the oldern times in the regions, b: spread of islam in the area, spreading arabic language and c: turks becoming a domintant power in mid east.
shehir in turkey used for town, is same as shahr, does this come from persian originally or arabic also use it. And also nev, and naw meaning new, i think these two are originally persian.
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 11:01 |
Shehir comes from Persian Shahr
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 11:26 |
yea i know that, im wondering what it is in arabic, is it the same, i mean does the word shahr come from arabic, its one of those words that sounds arabic, but also persian aswell.
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 11:42 |
shahar in Arabic means Month.
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 14:29 |
We generally use the word "kent" in Turkish for shahr. "Kent" is loaned from Sogdian. The original Turkish word for city is "balik" though...
In Turkish, the purest vocabulary is the one for verbs. Turks have loaned lots of words from Persian, and vice versa. Also from Arabic. But our verbs were always the most original ones left. And in Turkish, (Ural-Altaic languages), you can create a sentence from one single verb. Verbs are the keys of communication and all language. You can define both the person, time and purpose in one single verb by suffixes. That's why verbs are the roots of our language...
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 01:38 |
So it has no Arabic root as Shahar in arabic is different from Persian Shahr which is driven from Shah (king), which is taken from Summerian Sar (leader).
In Farsi Khar means donkey where in Arabic it means sh*t, even with the word being similar in sound it does not mean it has the same root if the contect or meaning is totally different.
Well I think that is how it goes ![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 01:48 |
Originally posted by Rakhsh
In Farsi Khar means donkey where in Arabic it means sh*t, even with the word being similar in sound it does not mean it has the same root if the contect or meaning is totally different.
Well I think that is how it goes ![](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
Sh*t in classical Arabic is Khara'
in most dialects, Kharah
If Khar means donkey in Persian, what is a mule?
Donkey in Arabic= Homar, Mule=Baghl
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 06:16 |
In Turkish, Donkey = eshek (merkep) Mule = katyr
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 06:32 |
mule = ghaater.
also for donkey we have olaagh.
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 06:39 |
oh, I just noticed: ghaater : katyr
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 07:49 |
Originally posted by Zagros
oh, I just noticed: ghaater : katyr |
we have a preverb with the word "katyr"
"katyr'a sormuslar baban kim? At dayim demis"
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 08:03 |
which means?
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 10:38 |
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which means? |
Ow sorry forget to translate, ok here it is; "they asked to katyr "who is youre father"? He answered "horse is my uncle".
as you see he doesnt wanna say "my father is a donkey" ![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 13:32 |
lol good one.
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Posted: 29-Oct-2005 at 19:41 |
HAHAHAHA that is funny
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Posted: 30-Oct-2005 at 00:21 |
Bizde de var o atalar sozu
we also have the same proverb
her halde biz de turkuk
Zagros, i couldnt translate that "her halde"
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Posted: 30-Oct-2005 at 18:15 |
herhalde = maybe, perhaps
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