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Topic: Ottoman Architecture in balkan Posted: 10-Mar-2007 at 19:47 |
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Ottoman architecture is a synthesis of primarilly late Seljuk-Beylik, Roman-Byantine with elements of Timurid, Mamluke, Ummayed styles in addition to it's own unique and original Ottoman architectural developments and styles.
A great example of this is the "Turkish Bath", Turks had steam baths in Central Asia, when they arrived in Anatolia they came across the Roman style baths, hence a new synthesis, the two complimented each other and became something new, what is today known as the Turkish Bath.
The typical Ottoman town would begin with finding a fresh water source, nearby an "Ulu Camii", Grand Mosque would be built, the mosque was not just a place of worship in those days. It would have a primary school and high school building attached, if the town prospered a University and faculty of higher learning would be added. In addition to this, the Mosque would have a abulution and drinking water fountain and fresh water fountains would be built in every district. To support this a "Charshi (market/traders) street" would be constructed adjacent of nearby the Mosque. The traders would contribute some of the money earned to helping support the institutions, also the Mosque's would provide, "homes and food for the homeless", homes for orphans, a hospital and in developed areas mental hospitals. The street's would be planned, gates constructed and the residential houses would follow a similar plan unless wealthy families wished to patron their own original styles.
Sarajavo was and still is a great example of Ottoman civic architecture and city planning.
Until the very end of the Ottoman period, the skyline of Sarajevo was known for its 99 mahalas of whitewashed houses punctuated by 99 slender minarets that rose from their centers.4 It was likewise punctuated by minaret-like poplar trees, for trees were a required adjunct to mosques and graveyards, and a preferred part of a house courtyard. Even until recently, the skies of Sarajevo must have appeared as pierced as eyelet lace, for in 1958 Sarajevo had many hundreds of mosques and mahala mesdzids and poplars. (Balic, 1994) p. 154
Sarajevo became one of the most advanced cities in Europe. It had its own water system, clock tower, bathhouses, and schools. In a time when education was merely for the wealthy, and most Europeans considered baths to be unhealthy, Sarayliyas (Sa-ray-lee-yas, residents of Sarajevo) were among the cleanest and most culturally advanced commoners on the continent. A famous Sarajevan poet of the time wrote, "There it seems to man that he can live for a long time, for in a thousand places in Sarajevo flows water from the well of longevity".
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 00:17 |
I wish The Ottomans were to show same level of value to the Anatolian cities.
Most of the old architecture in Anatolia belong to the Seljuks, with a very small Ottoman contribution.
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 00:26 |
Originally posted by Kapikulu
I wish The Ottomans were to show same level of value to the Anatolian cities.
Most of the old architecture in Anatolia belong to the Seljuks, with a very small Ottoman contribution. |
Why do they not show the same level of value towards those cities?
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 11:16 |
Kapikulu
I wish The Ottomans were to show same level of value to the Anatolian cities.
Most of the old architecture in Anatolia belong to the Seljuks, with a very small Ottoman contribution
Your looking at it from the wrong perspective in my opinion. The Ottoman State was not just Turkey, they couldn't focus solely on Turkey and neglect everywhere else. If you look at the extensive Ottoman building projects, they extend from the Balkans, to Turkey, to the middle east, into the Caucauses and into North Africa. There are Ottoman remanants to be found in all these areas. Most cities today in these areas have a strong Ottoman presence.
The vast scale of building that went on is partly due to the system of governance. The provinces administrator was infact ruling in a decentrallised manner and would try to make the presence of the ruler known.
Therefore, you can find the "Ulu Camii", Grand Mosque complex, educational facilities, fountains, libraries, Turkish Baths, Charshi/Bazaar areas. For example the Grand Bazaar of Istanbul, there are also grand Bazaar's in Damascus, Aleppo, SanliUrfa, in Lebanon, Israel/Palestine, the Balkans and so on.
The Seljuks had developed Anatolia alot, the Ottomans would add additions and extend what was already built by their predeccessors.
However, its incorrect to say they neglected Anatolia. Firstly there is Bursa, Istanbul and Edirne which were given alot of attention as they were capitols. Then there is Manisa which was the city of princes and princesses which was highly valued. Look at Kastanomu, Kayseri, GaziAntep, Erzerum houses, Safranbolu's is a Unesco World Heritage site.
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Prizren - Kosovo
Mehmet Pasha Turkish Bath
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 11:38 |
I have been twice 2 Ishak pasa palace it is truely beatifull but not as beautifull like i used to be.. SO i have heard.
I agree with kapikulu that the Ottomans focused to much on the rest of there empire and 2 less on Anatolia
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 12:04 |
Its to do with the "BeylerBeyliks-Eyalets", the capital-key provincial cities recieved focus, like Manisa, Sivas, Safranbolu, Kayseri, Adana, Maras, Erzerum, Van etc
Is Ishak Pasha currently being restored? its on the Unesco list of buildings which are nominated to join I hope they do a good job bringing it back to its prior state.
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The Fatih or Imperial Mosque was built in 1461 under Turkish Sultan Mehmed II Fatih ('the conqueror'), as witnessed by the engraving above the main door, and is Pristina's grandest building. Inside, painted floral decorations and arabesques grace the walls and ceiling. The spectacular 15-metre dome, resting on support pillars, was an architectural feat at the time of construction. The minaret is a reconstruction after the original was damaged during an earthquake in 1955. The mosque was briefly turned into a church during the Austro-Turkish wars from 1690-1698.
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Tetevo - Macedonia
Arabati Baba Take, Muslim monastery complex The tekke (a convent of the dervish-order), was built in the late 18th century by Redzep Pasha, and belonged to the most influenced dervish order the bektashes who resided there until 1912. The tekke is comprised of several buildings used for religious ceremonies as well as for the daily activities of the dervishes - tower of prayer, dervish inn, covered fountain.
The Decorated mosque The mosque is situated in the center of Tetovo. It was built in 1833/34 on the foundations of the older edifice, with the reminiscence of the early Constantinopolitan style. All the facades as well as the interior were decorated with geometric and floral ornaments, making this building unique preserved monument of islamic architecture.
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Bitola - Macedonia
Bedesten The Bedesten (covered market) is situated in the center of Bitola. According to the historical sources this complex was built in 1506. One could enter the bedesten four arched entrances, closed by night with iron double-doors. It comprises several alleys with 86 shops, and is vaulted with barrel-vaults pierced with windows for lighting the interior. The Bedesten has maintained its original function as a market.
Isak Mosque The mosque is situated in the central area of Bitola downtown. It is also known as the Azreti Isak mosque, and it is constructed for its size and exterior, as well as for luxurious interior, one of the most beautiful mosques in Bitola. According to the inscription above the main entrance it was erected as a legacy of the judge Isak Chelebi Ibn Iso, in 1506/07. It is the tallest mosque in Bitola.
Yeni Mosque The Yeni mosque is located in the neighborhood of the Isak mosque. It was built in 1558/9 by Kadi Mahmud-Efendi. It is square in base, with three domed porch and 40 m high minaret. The glazed decorative features of its interior are the unique examples. Today its interior is adapted in an Art Gallery where the international Graphic Art takes place (every three years).
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 12:22 |
Buna River Tekke - Bosnia
The Tekke is located on the source of the river Buna in Blagaj, near Mostar. The ensemble of Blagaj Tekke was built around 1520. The Tekke was erected on the spot where the good Evlija disappeared, for whom a special tomb was raised in the turbe. Like in most Tekkes, here as well, there is a musafirhana - a place where sheikhs (head of a Sufi order), the dervishes and other travellers could obtain free overnight lodging. At present are preserved the residential building, the turbe (mausoleum) with two tombs marked by wooden coffins, the remains of the Tekke and the mills on the river. The ensemble is enriched by the natural setting, an important part of the ritual. The rocks and the water near Blagaj Tekke are an inseparable part of this sacred place. The source of the Buna is the most beautiful underground watercourse in this karst region.
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Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 15:43 |
Originally posted by Bulldog
Its to do with the "BeylerBeyliks-Eyalets", the capital-key provincial cities recieved focus, like Manisa, Sivas, Safranbolu, Kayseri, Adana, Maras, Erzerum, Van etc
Is Ishak Pasha currently being restored? its on the Unesco list of buildings which are nominated to join I hope they do a good job bringing it back to its prior state.
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My first visit was 9 years ago and the last was 3 years ago. when I compare the pictures I can cleary see progress so yes it's being restored and this makes me verry happy because it's a verry beatifull palace in the middle of no where. there is also a little mosk verry near wich is located on a top of a hill wich is also verry beatifull those 2 are connected somehow but I have forgotten how exactly
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Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 22:26 |
Dear Bulldog. Since you don't know much about the Ottomans, It's quite normal that you don't know what Rumeli meant for the Ottomans.
A little clue, search it and learn:
"Rumeli-i şahane"
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Bajrakli Mosque, Belgrade Serbia
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Posted: 19-Mar-2007 at 10:09 |
This is due to the diversity of Turkey, including architecture. In general, western Anatolia, and eastern Balkan are more closer to eachother in many aspects.
Here's a traditional architecture of the eastern part of Turkey, for instance:
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Posted: 19-Mar-2007 at 16:20 |
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What a nice place.
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Posted: 19-Mar-2007 at 23:32 |
Originally posted by DayI
this is NOT in Balkans, its Amasya in Turkey :)
![](http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/539/amasya05iw6.jpg)
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and a clocktower
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Posted: 05-May-2007 at 17:56 |
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And these mosques look a lot like the Hagia Sophia, which was not part of the Ottoman architecture
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Greek Architecture was part of Ottoman Architecture.As you know Ottoman was an "empire" empires contains different architectures,cultures,languages etc.
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Ada Kaleh
Ada-Kaleh island had lain in the middle of the Danube, before it was covered by the waters of the river, downstream the Iron Gates, at a distance of 4 km south-east from Dierna (Orsova) and 18 km from Drobeta (Tumu-Severin). In the region, the climate is mild, wet in winter and hot in summer. The mediterranean influence allowed the adaptation of some exotic species of plants and animals.
This paper is meant to describe, as far as the available knowledge allows it, a historical and archaeological monument, which was lost for good. Ada-Kaleh island was 1.750 km long and 400-500 m wide and lay in Mehedinti county, Romania.
At the beginning of the 15th century, the island was occupied by Turks, who intuited its remarkable strategical importance for the development of the river trade on the Danube, after the exit from Kazan region. In 1718, as a result of the treaty from Passarowitz (Pojarevat), the northern Serbia, Banat and Oltenia became possessions of the Austrians, as was also the case of Ada-Kaleh island which bore the name New Orsova then.
The Austrians built a strong fortification of "Vauban" type (Fig. 2) on the island. In 1739, after the treaty from Belgrad, Austria returned Serbia and Oltenia to Turkey. As a result the island was occupied again by Turks, who gave it the name Ada-Kaleh, which may be translated as "the island of the fortress." The toponym can also be found in the documents of that time as: Ada Kale, Ada Cale, Adakaleh, Ada Kaleh or Adacale.
The efforts of the Austrians to retrieve the island between 1789-1790, were unsuccessful. After 1829, together with the treaty from Adrianopol, the Romanian States obtained many facilities such as: administrative autonomy, free trade, rulers appointed for their life time, etc. Therefore, the strategical importance of the island diminished considerably after applying the stipulations of the treaty. At the Peace Congress in Berlin (1878), the situation of the island wasn't raised for discussion during the negotiations, it was actually forgotten, continuing to be an isolated possession of Turkey. On the 22nd November 1885, the island was declared open and from now on, the military functions of the island were ended. This was the situation of the island until 1919, when it was returned to Romania, under the right of self-determination of the inhabitants. The situation was registered by the treaty from Trianon (1920) and it was admitted by Turkey only in 1923, as part of the treaty of Lausanne.
After 1923, the island became a touristic paradise. The ruined fortifications, the occupations and customs ofthe natives, very interesting from the ethnographical point of view, the exoticism of the climate, fauna and flora were interesting sights for visitors and local tourism was developing. The economic situation flourished as never before, especially after 1931, when the former king of Romania, Carol II, visited the island and the inhabitants were given many privileges.
At the end of the 1960s and at the beginning of the 1970s, the governments of Romania and Yugoslavia decided to start the construction of a lake for the Iron Gates I hydro-electric plant. In 1971, as a consequence, when the project was put into practice, Ada-Kaleh island was covered by the waters of the Danube as the water-level rose. Parts of the Austrian and Turkish monuments from the island which could be saved were moved to the island Ostrovul Simian, thanks to the academician C.S. Nocolaescu-Plopsor and the architect Adriana Mihai. These consisted of part of the walls of the fortress, two gates and some Turkish monuments. The inhabitants were moved to other places according to the Decision 2147/1967 of the Council of Ministers of Romania, according to the Decree 1008/1967.
http://alexisphoenix.org/adakaleh.php
Portrait of a group labelled "Youth of Ada Kaleh"
Interior of a room richly decorated with turkish rugs and other decorations in the Drobeta Museum.
The new Ada Kaleh
Photos of the Simian island, where in the seventies was intended to be recreated the island with Turkish culture:
http://alexisphoenix.org/adakalehnew.php
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Maybe too late but I have to say that some of the bulidings are not Ottomans.
For example this is the palace of Romanian queen Maria, build 19 century
also this is the palace of the Third kingdom
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