Questions on Kurds

Originally posted by Cent hehe Bulldog, now you got owned. Please he's Turkish and said that his state is a little facist.

The way you take advanage of Mortaza's ethnicity to villify the Turkish republic and  to exhonerate yourself from your ardently ignoniminious pro-Kurdish propaganda is  deplorable and wretched. Mortaza national belonging is irrelevant to his arguments, and as a Turkish citizen he has the right to criticize his own goverment and to strive for its betterment and improvement. I wish that was your objective too, rather than pursuing selfish purely kurdish agendas and seperatism.

Originally posted by khan53 mortaza what are u talking about?u are talking about turkish genocide which has done by armenians during the world war in east anatolia?yes more than 600.000 turks have died at that time.god bless their soul

khan51 please do not act stupid now.

You are correct in stating that 500,000 [Halacoglu, Ottoman Archives] thosand Muslims (mostly Kurds, Turks) have been killed in the eastern provinces of the Ottoman empire as a result of the Armenian collaboration with the Russian invading forces.

But also it true that more than 1,000,000 Armenian civilians and soldiers have lost their lives through murder, starvation, disease, exposure or on the battlefield. This an undeniable fact, and questioning its validity is an act of historical vandalism and is indicative of lack of scientific integrity. Please, do not let your Turkish nationalism blind you from seeing the truth, because defending the truth, and the truth only, will serve the Turkish national interests.

Do not fall inot the trap of responding to Armenian propaganda with Turkish propaganda.
 
Of course wheter those killings merit to be called a Genocide is still under heated dispute.




Edited by bg_turk - 07-Sep-2006 at 02:46

Of course...Armenians, who did not have a state for 600 years, with most of the men enlisted in the Ottoman Army, sent to labor, and killed. Somehow found a way to kill more Turks then the Ottoman Empire killed Armenians...

There is no point for me to argue with you..everyone here is aware how you partake in "intelligent" conversations. We cant discuss the genocide anyway...however

Originally posted by bulldog the last time Armenia had a fully independant state was nearly 2000 years ago so stop trying to deflect your own inadequecies on just one of the parties.

this just tells us how ignorant you are of the history of others...even those that you think you know so much about. But then again, no surprise there.


Edited by mamikon - 08-Sep-2006 at 15:02

Many people here (mostly Turks) dont agree with my view on the Armenian Genocide, however many of them are quite intelligent.

But your views, as I have seen on numerous threads, concerning Armenia and other "enemy of Turks" people are quite biased and incorrect...and this isnt just me saying it..you should take a closer look at the way people respond to your posts...for your sake.

Also, if you read my post carefully, you will see that I am not calling you intelligent or un-intelligent

You are more than welcome to think of me however you want...I wouldn't mind...

There was an independent Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia from 11-14th AD.
And the Armenian Bagratuni Kingdom from 8th-11th (beginning off)
And the last but not least 1918 - 1920

But then again, this thread is not about Armenia. And if khan53 could have supressed his errenous brain spurt regarding the Armenian Genocide, we wouldnt be having this pointless conversation now.


Edited by mamikon - 08-Sep-2006 at 17:22

the kurds, at first we had to ask, why nobody like the kurds???
i think that is the first important question!
suriye iran irak(arabs) Lebanon and at least turkey they dont like the kurds why??????
ok that we the turks dont like the pkk and hate them i think is normal. but why the other countries hate them???
mhhhh i think the kurds are not so peaceful and only wont liberty and freedom dont play a victim rolls in the history please.  every kurd tell the same we are so poor they kill us the hunt us and so on.....
but if you ask them why all this countries, which i enumerate, hunt and dont wont you they always answer, we dont know the only thing we wont is peace......

Originally posted by Batu they are not hated.Turkey hates PKK not kurds.other countries may hate them becouse they are mostly uneducated.

Edited by Yiannis - 18-Sep-2006 at 08:25

Originally posted by Cent "What do you understand by establishing a Kurdish nation? The PKK ideology is Marxist-Lenninist and its cause is to establish an ethnically pure Kurdish state for Kurds only.  Do you agree with that cause?"   I want a place where Kurds can learn their own language, their own culture and be KURDS.

Ok,there is a k�rt cultur who is mixed of T�rkic,Arabic or Farsi...But not history...

In Karnamak e Ardashir e Papakan Kurds are specifically mentioned. This document dates to 1700 years ago.