The Turcoman Tribes (1882)

What are the names of the names of the 9 Turkmen tribes?

Bulldog, most of the tribes you listed as 'other main tribes' are not main tribes actually. We've got 9 main tribes:

Tekke, Yomut, Kokleng, Salur, Saryq, Ersary, Qara, Chowdur, Al Illy.

All others are sub-divisions of these 9 main tribes. By the way, do you know the meaning of the word 'Tekke' (Turkmen: Teke)? Although the word "Tekke" is given as a title to the Turkmen tribe, it's a common Turkic word (not exclusive to Turkmen or Turkish).

Edited by gok_toruk - 25-Nov-2007 at 17:03

The Yivli Minare

Edited by Bulldog - 25-Nov-2007 at 22:05

Turkmen of Iraq are predominantly from the "Bayat" Turkmens

Its an unlogical and misleading chart because it would lead somebody who had no knowledge of Turkic or anything to do with Turks into thinking, "Azeri"/"Afshar"/"Qashqai"/"Turkish"/"Turkmen" are totally different languages when a speaker of any of them can understand a speaker of another.

It would be alot clearer if they simply seperated it into, "Oghuz", "Kipchak", "Karluk/Chaghtai" etc

And I really don't have a clue whose idea it was to include Afshar as if it was some foreign entity.

Also as Afshar actually live in Azerbaycan, Turkey, Iran, Turkmenistan and that they list that "Azeri"/"Turkish" are different languages, how is it that Afshars language arn't. Also its suggesting that Afshars can';t understand Turkish speakers in Turkey or Azerbaycan or Iran

Good Oghuz Avsar sites

http://www.avsarobasi.com/

The clans page

If you count that Uygur-Oz'bek has very high mutual intellegibility and that most speakers of Turki in Afganistan speak the same Turkic then the figure is over 40 million.

Edited by Bulldog - 28-Nov-2007 at 23:57

Originally posted by gok_toruk K�klengs mostly live in northeastern Iran, close to Turkmenistan border. By the way, I would say Uzbek and Uighur are closer to Turkmen than Azeri or Qashqay.

Yes, you're right Khutulun. It depends mostly on how you've got used to them. But still Turkmens can communicate with Uzbeks with no efforts, while it takes time to get used to Azeri. Uighur is also really alike.

Uygur-Oz'bek are practically the same except Oz'bek Turki contains more lexis from Kipchak Turki.

Well, for sure. Turkmens and Uzbeks have lived together for a long time; but this is not the only thing that makes Uzbek and Turkmen communicate easier than Azeri.

Southern Turkmen is closer to Anatolian Turkish than to Azeri.

Also Khutulun, Azeri stands behind Uzbek, Uighur and Turkish in cases of similarities with Turkmen in accent. Azeri does not have Northern Turkmen accent AT ALL. Uighur way of pronouncing words is not like Southern Turkmen either.


Edited by gok_toruk - 01-Dec-2007 at 11:05