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Topic: Ancient Mediterranean population Posted: 27-Oct-2007 at 10:32 |
While all historians agree that the population of the Mediterranean in the classic era was considerably greater than during the Middle Ages, the exact (or even approximate) figures are highly debateable.
What is certain is that during the principate, the Roman Empire probably had a collective population of between 50 to 90 million, with 60 or 70 being the most likely estimates.
After the arrival of the plague in the 160sAD that recurred throughout the 3rd century, the population had been severely decimated, but by how much?
What would the population of the empire have been at the year 220AD or 300AD for example?
Obviously that by the time of Diocletian and Constantine the population of the empire was considerably smaller than the time of Augustus, placing great strain on the recruitment of the late empire's enlarged army; giving rise to desparate practices such as forced conscription, hereditary enlistment, and eventually the mass recruitment of foreign volunteers.
THe city of Rome had a population of 1 million at the time of Christ and 50,000 at the fall of the City. Did the numbers decline steadily? Or was there a major exodus?
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Posted: 27-Oct-2007 at 10:40 |
Wow, i didn't know it reached 1 million! Well, the truth is that i have myself seen some remarkable numbers at various periods. I believe the population has been varying depending on the quality of life at that time.
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Posted: 27-Oct-2007 at 20:22 |
Ancient demographics is naturally a very challenging; we get some numbers from census figures, and some estimates based on achegology (including assays of graveyards), but most ancient population numbers are in the end guesses, and not always educated ones.
While we have constant reports of depopulation within the Empire during the 3rd and 4th centuries AD, necessitating the frequent settlement of barbarians on imperial holdings. But these reports can not be confirmed; the abandonment of agricultural lands does not mean the peasants are gone, they may have simply moved into the city. We do know that depopulation was a constant concern for Roman officials, who feared that they would run out of tax payers and military recruits.
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Posted: 28-Oct-2007 at 15:18 |
THe city of Rome
had a population of 1 million at the time of Christ and 50,000 at the fall of
the City. Did the numbers decline steadily? Or was there a major exodus? |
The relocation of the Imperial Capital to Constantinople
probably had a significant negative impact on Romes
population.
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Justinian
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Posted: 28-Oct-2007 at 22:37 |
This should help some:
Edit: I found some more websites that should interest you--
I can't vouch for the accuracy of these sites but they seem reliable enough. So 45-120 million would be the spectrum, with 50-70 the most probable or median throughout the history of the empire.
Just google, "population of the roman empire", and you'll get a ton of hits.
Edited by Justinian - 29-Oct-2007 at 02:07
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Posted: 31-Oct-2007 at 08:29 |
Thanks for these links.
Ancient estimates are often unreliable because contemporary estimates exaggerate figures for political reasons.
Julius Caesar had apparently defeated 3 million Celts in his Gallic Campaigns: with 1 million dead and another million enslaved.
If these figures had been reliable, Gaul should have had a population of 10 million by the time of the conquest.
How many soldiers did Julius Caesar lead to Gaul, and how many survived the campaign?
If we say, 50,000 soldiers could defeat consecutively 3 million enemies, the outcome would indeed be impressive.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2007 at 09:50 |
The number of dead and enslaved is hyperbole; the figure itself comes from Suetoninus, and is given as a boast of Ceasar, not a scientific assay. Population figures of Gaul vary, but 5-10 million is probably in the ball park. Britain probably had roughly 1-2 million inhabitants.
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Posted: 31-Oct-2007 at 19:47 |
Glad to be of help calvo.
And yes ancient estimates are just that; estimates. Caesar was a master of propaganda, it seems likely that he defeated an enemy more numerous than himself, but he was definitely liberal with numbers to say the least. The population figures you and dexippus mention are what I also have heard for Gauls population. The idea he defeated three million barbarian soldiers if the number that is rather more questionable.
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Posted: 01-Nov-2007 at 15:17 |
Yes - as is his report that he faced almost a quarter of a million Gauls at Alesia. Blatant rubbish, despite his veteran troopers and his flanking of the Gallic army, it was probably more Gauls routing that largest number of dead that ran the battle.
the figure itself comes from Suetoninus |
Figures? From Suetonius? He's good for understanding basic ideas behind the emperors and writing about the general consensus, but not really much else.
...I wonder if Strabo gives an estimate about the population in this period?
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