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Mila
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Topic: Your Countrys Historical Costumes Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 22:50 |
If we could go back in time a hundred years, or a thousand, what would be on the front pages of Medieval Vogue in your country?
Traditional costumes of Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) from all across Bosnia and Herzegovina...
SARAJEVO:
MOSTAR:
TUZLA:
ROGATICA:
PODRINJE:
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Janissary
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Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 22:54 |
hmmm,
very close to turkish
-I know
Are u Turkish also???
Becouse Bosniya Hers. was Turkish usually
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Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 22:59 |
Yes and no. Racially we're Slavic, but since the Ottoman Empire brought
about the end of the independent Bosnian church, most of the
linguistic, cultural, and historical attributes that make modern
Bosniaks different from the rest of our neighbors are Turkish in origin.
We, of course, absorbed this into our own culture and it's still very
easy to tell when you're among Bosniaks in a Bosnian city and when
you're among Turks in a Turkish city - but the similarities are there.
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Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 23:06 |
some like moi are mixed turk and bosnian
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Mila
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 00:17 |
Originally posted by ill_teknique
some like moi are mixed turk and bosnian
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Not many, but that's only because only modern mixed marriages are
acknowledged. Bosniaks whose parents married non-Bosniaks, or who live
outside of Bosnia, would know - but it's a cultural thing within Bosnia
that you only marry your own. Marrying a Bosnian Croat or Bosnian Serb
would be more acceptible than marrying a Turkish Bosniak. Have you ever
been harassed or anything, teknique?
And I forgot the most important costume.
During the Ottoman Empire, a lottery was held every year to select
young women from across Bosnia to be trained in dance, sex, cooking,
etc... it was actually considered somewhat an honor.
The girls who were chosen covered their bodies from head to toe in
green or red cotumes. They wore bells on their ankles and it was
forbidden to even look at them.
Most ended up in harems in Turkey. They say this was the inspiration
for Ivo Andric's character Fata in the Nobel prize winning book 'The
Bridge Over the Drina'. "There was
an enchanted circle around Fata of the nature which always surrounds
the most beautiful girl in a small village. Not only was she beautiful,
but she had her Father's intelligence. For these wondrous reasons she
remained until late in her years without a husband and left behind,
instead of a life fullfilled, a song and a story. 'Thou art wise as
thou art lovely, lovely Fata'"
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 11:27 |
Turkish Cypriot folk dancers in traditional costume.
(looks similar to Bosniaks)
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erci
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 13:53 |
whole world costumes look same to me
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 14:14 |
not really, when i saw those pics of Mila i tought she shows the Turkish dancers, but they arent lol but it looks like Turkish
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erci
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 14:22 |
yeap, that's what I mean they all look the same.only few differences in details
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 15:01 |
'Welsh national custume'
Google for more, i'm lazy.
Its basicly been reduced to an 'ethnic costume', that is to say, denied a normal status relevant to the present.
The actual 'costume' (for it has literaly become that) is based on
trends in the early 1800s, the hat was really an optional feature, and
there were originaly many styles, but now mostly you only see the one.
There were also originaly many colours, but red become the difinitive
colour (see the Welsh flag for details).
The clothing itself, was for
sure Welsh, uniquely so on times, though some of the basic styles had
localised variations over much of the UK. Just that in parts of Wales,
traditional handicrafts survived the Industrial revolution and its onslaught of cheap fabrics untill a
later date than other parts of the UK and so to did those styles, and
was the result of a continous evoltion.
Then the nationalists turned it into a static symbol, a uniform of
identity, and denied it its natural evolution and acceptance. It ceased
to evolve and be updated and be reinvented, and became a mere ethnic
costume, good for the national celebration days and the tourists, but
little else. Stuck in a time warp, or a glass bottle, effectivly dead
as a real tradtion, but imortalised as a symbol.
Sad really, it is for this reason that i oppose the notion of the
'ethnic costume', either you do it properly, or you don't do it at all.
Trying to keep it in am imaginary state of purity just kills it.
Hopefully someday someone will draw inspiration from it and breath new life into it. Who knows.
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Posted: 21-Oct-2005 at 15:25 |
A little video clip depicting all the traditional costumes of
Yugoslavia. It's from Radenska, a Slovenian mineral water, and was
produced during the time of Yugoslavia.
The costumes it shows are, in order:
1. Slovenian
2. Croatian
3. Bosniak
4. Vojvodinian
5. Serbian
6. Albanian
7. Montenegrin
8. Macedonian
Of course the Bosniak waitress is the most beautiful.
http://www.zippyvideos.com/6285629821832466/radenska/
It's also a nice lesson in stereotypes and ethnic tensions. The
Slovenians who made this commercial depicted the Slovenians in it as
modern, westerners. The Croatians were depicted as poor fishermen. The
Bosniak were depicted with subservient women. The Vojvodinians were
depicted as bike-riding, toothless beggars. The Serbs were depicted as
nasal, hands-in-air nationalist idiots where brides are already
pregnant on their wedding day, the Kosovars were ice cream makers, and
the Macedonians were tobacco farmers.
More or less what modern Slovenians still think of us all. LOL
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 09:58 |
Bakma; those are like as we know "efeler" in Turkey
an example:
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 09:59 |
sorry i mean youre ( ) costume
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 10:08 |
India has many ethnicities n each ethnicity has its own historical/traditional clothes.In Indian context I think it would be better to call such clothes traditional rather than historical bcoz these clothes r still worn.SARIGHAGRA CHOLI
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 10:34 |
Some Classical Dances from India
1}Bharatnatyam
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 10:35 |
2}Manipuri
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 10:35 |
3}Kathak
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 10:41 |
Some Folk Dances
1}Bhangra
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 10:46 |
2}Padayani
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