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Topic: The Huns Europid? Posted: 08-Jun-2011 at 05:51 |
That only means people have mixed their DNA till the dawn of the world.Isolation cause of climate changes or evolutionary different dominant ancestors made them different.Survival advances have been always before symmetry and beauty ![Approve Approve](smileys/smiley14.gif) as we knew it today.
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Posted: 11-Jun-2011 at 13:27 |
I always assumed The Germans were called Huns just as a general insult. Comparing them to marauding barbarians.
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Posted: 09-Jul-2011 at 07:02 |
Today's mongolian people believe that they are desendents of Huns. They call them as Hunnu Uls which means Huns Empire. In mongolian language Hun (khun) means a Man or Person. The Huns had a flag made from horse tails. Mongolia is still using this kind of flag for military symbol.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 01:41 |
No other european accounts say huns were mongoloid, it was popularized by colonial age europeans linking east asians with native americans, imagining them as savages as they denigrate
the past history of huns and mongols. It is why european believe huns and mongols were mongoloid, but in fact both of them were caucasian.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 02:00 |
What did it wrong if they are mongoloids?Racial barriers today are out of rational logic.Basic animal law ever have existed:Reproduce yourself!More replicas you have had,more chances information of your existence on on earth surface,would not be erased!You are buying your ticket for immortality.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 02:08 |
But truth is that huns and mongols were not mongoloid, it is not about favor, just simple truth.
Todays mongolians appeared predominantly mongoloid, because they were scattered minor siberian tribes gathered by the Temujins, the ancestor of Ghengis Khan. Modern mongolian gene pool is consistent with siberian tribes, so siberian tribes provided a pure mongoloid population source for mongolia, while had nothing to do with the Temujin clan and his hordes.
It was the forced assimilation of siberian tribes under Ghengis Khan that created modern mongolian population, but Ghengis Khan and Temujins were not necessarily from siberian tribes, and all historical records do not indicate he was from Siberia. The mongoloid siberian tribes existed long before the coming of Temujins, the inuits, nenets, evenkis have been living in far northern Eurasia for more than 5000 years, and yet never been responsible for any sort of major invasion, nor any major tribal wars. Therefore the factor of assimilation was foreign to the traditional cultures of siberian tribes. Similiar to the pestilence experienced by the amerindians, which did not appear untill spaniards and portuguese came. The siberian tribes today still preserve their original lifestyle, minor, split, animist, family based, it is impossible for them to have form an empire completed with religious, political, military centers. The non-aggressiveness is a major mongoloid cultural trait worldwide, Cambodia, Siam, Mesoamerican, China, Japan had never been responsible for military conquest outside their traditional territory, the Mongol empire just came off as a sudden exception? There can never be cultural exceptions without foreign influence.
Also mongolian script during the time of Ghengis Khan was based on uighur language, a turkic islamic language. Uighurs are predominantly mixed between europids, arabid, east asian, they represented the most westernized tribes of China. Their linguistic influence in Mongol empire indicates the presence of western asian cultural, political, religious elements.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 02:34 |
Wadjet,you approve my claim above.Every race today says,they are like us,but we are better.Nobody has right to be ashamed cause of his ancestors.God bless them cause i am here.What did if you are ancestor is black&mongoloid,noble king?During WW2,"white" people,have killed so many white people,cause they had not deserved white color!You are telling me the same story.Mongoloids in Asia are not the same,even i have believed you had had same at least one ancestor in your DNA tree.Once we have called the earth mother and she was same for all of us.Than we have started fencing,and new states were created.More states more differences among us.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 02:56 |
Siberian tribes and mongolians are genetically the same except for a few western admixtures. If they are not chinese, siberians are the same with mongolians but both of them did not invade anyone during the last 5000 years untill the mongol Empire. An empire never rises out and falls into nothingness.
The invasion, rape, massacre have been a consistent trait of caucasian cultures from the records of the earliest indo-european culture-- India. Read Mahabharata, there are all about rapes and massacres.
Even not all mongoloids are the same, but we are closer to each other, will not be so far as to be so much like caucasians.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 05:48 |
Yes,you have genetic purpose for your attitude.China have defended its borders from Mongolian tribes all the time.But in the same time they ruled China also.And world does not exist 5000 years.First official ruler of China,had gathered lot of ancient tribes(Mongolls&Indians mixture?) and created China.Tell me more about it pal cause i am ignorant about it.Cause part of history before this one,with written documents, would have intrigued us more than that we "knew".
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 07:26 |
China defended its border from western invasion since the great wall, so you are right here. But mongolian=/mongols, mongolian were colonized by the mongols which came from western asia and stole the name for themself. Guess what, when huns were ravaging Europe, China was plagued by a group of nomads which chinese called them as Bailu, the pale skinned looters.
What do you mean by official ruler? Chinese culture lasted from 8000BC untill today. Mongolians were siberians gathered by colonizers, they used to be a peripheral ethnic of East Asia, but it does not mean they are unimportant to our history, and simply instruments of western propagandas.
In the western mind, when mongolians are mongols, they must be related to us, but when mongols turned out not mongolians, mongolians must not be part of us.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 08:16 |
Official as in documents was written.But I saw the story on National,about Chinese general,that had established Mongolian dynasty in China,feared from social rebellion inside.So you have at least one Mongol dynasty in China.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 10:09 |
What are you talking about? Ghengis Khan established the mongol empire but he was no chinese, he just warred in China does not make him a chinese.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 11:48 |
Who did protect "Silk Road" trading during the Egypt&Ptolemies&Romans?Mongol warriors?Rome had used them further as mercenaries in Roman army. http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Sources/China_Maps/China_Empire_History/Map_China-Silk_Road-2-Roman_Age.html
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 20:08 |
What does it have anything to do with mongols????
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 20:25 |
If the term "mongoloid" was not a derisive term in the past, then why were humans born with "Down('s) syndrome" often called "Mongoloid" in the past?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/down+syndrome
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 20:31 |
In 1866 someone considered mongols had his own syndromes must be mongoloid, further proves my point that mongol=mongoloid is a colonial product.
Thanks Opuslola for finding this out.
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Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 20:35 |
In fact more retardation rate within caucasian than mongoloids, and in regard to the topic, mongols were rather caucasian than mongoloid, it is ignorance that lead people to believe mongols were mongoloid and caucasians have less retards than mongoloids.
They are as mongoloid as the were the mongols.. ![Wink Wink](http://www.allempires.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: 21-Jul-2011 at 15:06 |
I don't believe that the Huns were Europid, just because of the fact that they lived for centuries in a different climate than Western Europe did and by the fact that they were influenced by many other nations of Central and Western Asia. There had to be a difference.
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