female pilots
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Topic: female pilots
Posted By: bleda
Subject: female pilots
Date Posted: 13-May-2006 at 18:57
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Caption: Turkish Air Force Pilot Sahiba Gokcen
Female Flier Escourting Male Fliers
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Posted By: bleda
Date Posted: 13-May-2006 at 19:51
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some modern days picture
Turkish female F16 pilot 1st Lt. Asli Senol is with her husband 1st Lt. Ilker Senol. They are at the same base but in different wings. She won several citations for her success in Agean mock dog-fights. Her success brought her a place in the wing that protects the Baltics states ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14-May-2006 at 11:16
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Women pilots? The world is/ has gone mad. On a more serious note I suppose the women would be more motivated than their male counterparts. After all a man only joins the military if he cannot find a job else where a women because it signifys "independence". ------------- |
Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 14-May-2006 at 16:05
I disagree. It's not always about "independence" for women. In this case it's more like "equality". If she is qualified to fly a plane like her male counterpart, she should have a right to do so. That's not independence, it's job classification equality.  Also, in the US, women/men don't have to join the military to fly a plane. She, like her male counterparts, takes flying lessons and takes exams to get her pilot license. Experience is gained in flight time.
------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-May-2006 at 00:33
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Thats not the point. A young man see a military career as a last chance. A poorly paid profession which could come with a free bullet in his head. A young women on the other hand sees it in the manner you described. Which is why they always have better luck recruiting women than men. ------------- |
Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 15-May-2006 at 00:41
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I heard a rumor that Sahiba Gokcen was Armenian...
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Posted By: Mila
Date Posted: 15-May-2006 at 10:05
It may be true in Pakistan, I read you're admitting women into more areas than just the medical field now - big changes for any country, really. I think you're comparing the wrong things, Sparten. Comparing the idea women have of 'independence', or 'doing what the men do' is an idealized feeling the same as men have the 'glory of being a soldier', the 'pride of defending the nation', etc. The actual, realistic, life reasons why men and women join the military, I suspect, are probably similar to each other. Money, work, etc. ------------- |
Posted By: Lmprs
Date Posted: 15-May-2006 at 10:15
I never heard about her ethnicity. What is your source? |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 15-May-2006 at 10:27
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Posted By: Richard XIII
Date Posted: 15-May-2006 at 10:40
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Biography Smaranda Braescu was bron in a small Moldavian village the daughter of poor peasant farmers. In spite of the family’s limited resources the child is sent to school and later to college in the nearby city of Barlad. Here, in 1912, at the age of 15 Smaranda witnesses the first landing of an airplane, an event which was going to change her life. Six years later, at the Aviation training School of Tecuci, Smaranda flies for the first time. Next comes her being acquainted with the parachute jumping in Bucharest, whilst a student at the Fine Arts School in 1928. That same year she jumps from 600m altitude, which makes her the first Romanian female parachutist and only the fourth one in the whole world. This debut promts her in beating first the European record, which was held by germany, at 4,000, a feat which she achieves in 1931 by jumping from 6,000 m altitude, for which she receives the Romanian Golden Cross of “Virtutea Aeronautica”. The following year, in the United States, in sacramento, Braescu establishes an absolute world record, previously held by an American at 21, 733 ft, by jumping successfully from 24,000ft (7,200m). From then on she becomes a heroine, being escorted by 30 other planes to an air show in Canada where she is invited. In America, she3 declines commercial stunt shows which would have made her a rich woman (see quote) anly to return to Romania. En route she is feted in Italy by the Minister of Aviation in Genoa and is invited to meet the Pope. In 1932, receiving her pilot licence she establishes another record by crossing the Mediterranean in a Milles Hawk plane which she bought. The trip of 1,100 Km took 6hrs and 10 minutes. A Romanian senator proposes Braescu for honours which she never gets, in a country where wome were more appreciated for their decorative qualities then for their achievements. With the advent of the second world war Smaragda Braesci enrols with other women pilots in the “White squadron”, active on the eastern front where Romania was trying to retrieve from the Soviets the provinces taken by Russia as a result of the Hitler-Stalin Pact. After 1944 Braescu joins the 13th squadron which fights the Germans on the Western front, first in Transylvania, thenm in Hungary (Nyiregyhaza ,Miskolc) and Czechoslovakia (Rimaska Sabota, Trencin and Piestany). Although a war hero Smaranda Braescu soon fall foul of the Communist puppet regime, installed in Romania by Stalin’s armies. She protests to the United Nations about the legality of the 1946 elections and her letter of protest to the Allied Command in Romania falls in the hands of a Russian general. From now on Smaranda Braescu becomes a pariah and has to join the underground resistance in order to escape emprisonment and sure death. She operates under an assumed name first from a convent and then from the maquis. She dies of cancer at the age of 51, being buried at Cluj, under her alias name of Maria Popescu, a grave on which her merits and real identity cannot be spelled out. The people who helped her are hounded out and given long prison sentences. http://www.blouseroumaine.com/freeexcerpt_p3.html - http://www.blouseroumaine.com/freeexcerpt_p3.html ------------- "I want to know God's thoughts... ...the rest are details." Albert Einstein |
Posted By: Goban
Date Posted: 16-May-2006 at 02:23
One of my first flight instructors was a woman. Probably one of my best.
 Speaking of women pilots, I wish I had the time to write about a pilot by the name of Willa Brown. If you can-research her, her story is that of inspiration. ------------- The sharpest spoon in the drawer. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16-May-2006 at 09:20
I was just joking around about women pilots in general . But I do have a firm belief that women and machinary do not mix. Before you all come down on me please be advised that I am trying (and failing) to teach my younger sister how to drive, which is the cause of said opinion.
But women in the military is a serious issue, and a very contempory one. ------------- |
Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 16-May-2006 at 15:22
Your are right about Willa Brown. She was the only woman in America holding a mechanic's license, a commercial pilot's license, and serving as the president of a large aviation corporation. She was an extraordinary woman, I agree! 
Willa Brown ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |