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Topic: Movie of the Mongols invasion Posted: 12-Apr-2006 at 11:49 |
are there any movies about the Mongols invasion of Europe?
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Posted: 12-Apr-2006 at 17:25 |
i wish
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Posted: 12-Apr-2006 at 17:42 |
I have a seen a few movies on Chingis Khan.I'll search google.
The Duke as The Khan: American Renditions of Chinggis Khan
"The Conqueror"
John Wayne was perhaps the only thing memorable (as being so miscast) about the 1955 production of "The Conqueror." The movie, filmed in Technicolor and Cinemascope, was 112 minutes long. It was produced and directed by Dick Powell and distributed by Howard Hughes, the famous millionaire eccentric.
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~corff/im/Film/chingis.html
CHINGIS KHAAN'S SPIRIT DISTURBED
Meantime, the latest news is that Hollywood martial art star Steven Sigal plans to direct an action movie about Chinggis Khaan, playing the latter role himself.
http://www.mongoliatoday.com/issue/7/chinggis_khaan.html
aFlam website (Your Online Historical films Encyclopedia)
http://www.aflam.ws/index.htm
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Posted: 12-Apr-2006 at 19:46 |
The Mongols
Description: (1961) The son of Genghis Khan is on the rampage in Europ in the 13th century. Jack Palance, Anita Ekberg, Antonella Lualdi, Franco Silva.
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Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 06:07 |
There was another Italian movie on the subject. I think it was
called HERCULES VS. THE MONGOLS or something like that.
Obviously, it was mainly fantasy with the figure from Greek mythology
as the main character, but the setting of the story was supposed to
have been the Mongol invasions of Europe.
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Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 07:01 |
OK since Scytho-Sarmatian deviated from the topic.
I remember having watched an Indian movie on Chingis Khan [In India Chingis=Changez].This movie was about Chingis Khan's raids into Indian territory.
Banner N C Films
Status Released
Color B
Release Date 1957
Director Kidar Kapoor
Star Cast Premnath Beena Roy Jeevan Helen Tiwari Sheikh Mukhtar Leela Mishra
http://musicandmovies.emallroad.com/product_info.php/cPath/2 6_41_46/products_id/2944
http://www.indiafm.com/movies/cast/1827/index.html
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Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 08:07 |
A "Bollywood" film on the Mongols? That sounds cool!
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Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 10:57 |
Thank you.Did the Russia or other Eastern Europe countries produce such kind of movies?
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Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 15:28 |
Originally posted by tommy
Thank you.Did the Russia or other Eastern Europe countries produce such kind of movies? |
Ya I saw a very old Russian movie some time back.It was made in the 1910's or 1920's.It presented Russian side of the story.Russians being persecuted and then rising against the Mongols.Not sure if Chingis Khan was a character in that movie.Sorry I forgot name of that movie.
If you wish I'll search.
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Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 03:29 |
Originally posted by Apples n Oranges
Originally posted by tommy
Thank you.Did the Russia or other Eastern Europe countries produce such kind of movies? |
Ya I saw a very old Russian movie some time back.It was made in the 1910's or 1920's.It presented Russian side of the story.Russians being persecuted and then rising against the Mongols.Not sure if Chingis Khan was a character in that movie.Sorry I forgot name of that movie.
If you wish I'll search.
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Thank you. I search it myself. But even I know the name, I may not find the movie in Hong kong.I think those libraries of my university may not have this movie.
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Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 03:48 |
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one should be easy to find. It's not East European; it's
Italian-made, but it should at least give you a European
perspective.
Now that you mentioned it, I might just end up ordering this
myself. I caught part of it on cable T.V. years ago; it seemed
fairly interesting. Also, I'd like to see that Indian movie too,
if I ever get a chance!
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 23:58 |
Hi Tommy
China made an excellent miniseries , 30 chapters
on Genghis Khan. "Chengjishian", Most actors and actressess
are Mongols from Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang.
Many Uighurs are therealso.
Main actor: Ba Sen -Genghis Khan
Sa Ren Gaowa - Kekelun
Suolizhong - Bortei
to to google and search for Genghis Khan TV Series.
r's
Clive
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Posted: 16-Apr-2006 at 08:22 |
by watching the movies, which mentioned above u won't understand nothin' of chinggis khan, that's what i'll tell u for sure. the movie mantioned by cliveetsknell is good. i really liked it. there's now a new movie which was made by austrians (the actors are mongolians) "Genghis khan the rider of the apocalypse". i think the movie's pretty good.
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I know the tv drama "Chengjishian". i watch it twice in Hong Kong. I think the tv drama could express the history of genghsis khan. But I also think the producer put nationalist feeling into history.The theme song of the drama stated that Genghsis Khan was a great hero, fulfilling the dream of foreign expansion. In the tv drama, Genghsis Khan was not a Mongols, he was a nationalist hero, a Chinese hero. the story talked about how Gk united all nomadic tribes in the Mongolian steppe, and then expaned to mid Asia, crushing the Jurchen Empire, building up a strong nation. Such historical approach can fit into the development of today and future China.Strong leader( Communist Party) ended the wars and disorders of Old China. they transformed it into a strong and united nation. then China will move into the international society as a strong power,Chinese companies will expand(but not by wars, as the government says) oversea. taking an active role in the international commercial activities.Chinese regarded Gk as hero because he stepped outside , building up a world Empire,today Chinese government encourged their companied to expand oversea.In such environment, Gk becomes a national hero. Some of my professors also believe that the tv drama is arousing the nationalist feeling of Chinese people.
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Posted: 18-Apr-2006 at 23:33 |
Originally posted by tommy
I know the tv drama "Chengjishian". i watch it twice in Hong Kong. I think the tv drama could express the history of genghsis khan. But I also think the producer put nationalist feeling into history.The theme song of the drama stated that Genghsis Khan was a great hero, fulfilling the dream of foreign expansion. In the tv drama, Genghsis Khan was not a Mongols, he was a nationalist hero, a Chinese hero. the story talked about how Gk united all nomadic tribes in the Mongolian steppe, and then expaned to mid Asia, crushing the Jurchen Empire, building up a strong nation. Such historical approach can fit into the development of today and future China.Strong leader( Communist Party) ended the wars and disorders of Old China. they transformed it into a strong and united nation. then China will move into the international society as a strong power,Chinese companies will expand(but not by wars, as the government says) oversea. taking an active role in the international commercial activities.Chinese regarded Gk as hero because he stepped outside , building up a world Empire,today Chinese government encourged their companied to expand oversea.In such environment, Gk becomes a national hero. Some of my professors also believe that the tv drama is arousing the nationalist feeling of Chinese people. |
Interesting. In your opinion what do you think is relevant about Genghis Khan and his conquest of the Sung dynasty and the present day modern chinese unity in China?
Does the mongolians agree that Genghis Khan is a chinese hero? Does the average chinese on the street feels the same way?
I just don't understand the rationale in linking Genghis Khan and chinese nationalism.
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Posted: 19-Apr-2006 at 10:00 |
Originally posted by raygun
Interesting. In your opinion what do you think is relevant about Genghis Khan and his conquest of the Sung dynasty and the present day modern chinese unity in China?
Does the mongolians agree that Genghis Khan is a chinese hero? Does the average chinese on the street feels the same way?
I just don't understand the rationale in linking Genghis Khan and chinese nationalism.
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Absolutely none would agree with that in Mongolia. I don't understand why he's seen as chinese hero too!! But i wouldn't abnegate there are many chinese think him as Chinese hero, and i even met few japanese saying its possible that Chingez khaan was japanese
and i don't get why they are refusing to agree him as mongol, its said very clear in Secret history of Mongols
btw, i heard Buriyats? recently made movie about Chingez khaan as well... not sure its buriyats or ....
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Posted: 19-Apr-2006 at 10:25 |
Yes, this feeling is interesting. I live in Hong Kong, I do not have such feeling. but many Chinese in the mainland have such feeling.It is because the history books of Communist China always state that"from ancient time"(They do not point out clearly how ancient)"China is a multi national nation", Huns , Mongols, Manchus, Tibet people and Uigher, as well as other minority ethnic groups are all the members of China. And under this idea, Gh became Chinese hero(although may not correct in my view) some Chinese historians consider the wars between Hans and Mongols or Hans and Manchus were only civil war between different ethnic group of China. But taiwan historians also have such idea. MMr Lo Hong Lam, an anti communist historian, even stated that the Manchus and Mongols had a same blood link with Hans, he stated that in ancient time, some Hans people moved north, into the steppe, they became the Mongols and manchus, so he stated that Manchus and Mongols did not invade China, only to come back to their ancient home.Many follow this idea. Hans people always had a strange feeling towards the Gk.The founder of the Ming dynasty also recognized Gk as the legitimate leader of China.In modern time, when inner mongolia region became part of China, and M<ongols became part of Chinese, this feeling becomes stronger. Apache Chief Geronimo fought against US , but today he was also recognized as a national hero. Right? One type of helicopter of Us was name as Apache. But many Apache warriors in 19 or even 20 century might not even recognized themselves as American. At that time. many American also did not recognized apach people as American. A Gual hero,who almost crushed Caesar, also recognized as the national hero of France, but today French really the sons daughters of the ancient Gaul?
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Posted: 19-Apr-2006 at 10:36 |
Sorry . i made a mistake. Geronimo was the medicine man, but not the chief
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Posted: 20-Apr-2006 at 06:34 |
if u look at the faces of people of china and mongolia, you would see they ARE NOT and WERE NOT one nation, its like comparing japanese to europeans... but uighurs and tibetians (and kazaks) more lookalike mongols than chinese... but the human being were one nation before seperated to ethnic and tribes long time ago... it has many sides to think of it!
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