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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Topic: Koreans and Aryans Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 07:04 |
http://www.int-pub-iran.com/Interview/interview01.htm
Dr Derakhshani Born in Tehran in 1944, He got his master degree in architecture and urban planning from Germany. He has been involved in historical research and linguistics in Germany for more than 20 years. He got his PhD in history from Yerevan University. His books and articles about ancient Iranian history enjoy international reputation. His latest works about Aryans were published in German some five years ago.
Q: When did Aryans start to scatter? A: We can respond to this question through the language they spoke. From a linguistic standpoint, Aryan language has influenced the entire world and Korean language contains around 200 Aryan words. You must know that Koreans are totally different from Japanese and Chinese. We may find tall Koreans with blue eyes but we rarely find such cases in Japan or China. Therefore, Aryans have even affected the Korean culture. Ancient Persian terms are also used in West and North Europe -- Finland and Hungary. If we follow up the roots we will find that Aryans had not started to scatter even in the fifth millenium BC.
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 14:02 |
Well...let's look at this..
Goguryeo wall murals: They have found blondes and blue eye'd people in these wall murals.
Language: I think it's mostly an inluence of Bhuddism...Like Sanskrit adn all that.
Korean's with blue eyes: I actually have heard of these
people They're thought to be the descendents of Dutch people who
washed up on the shores of Korea..(Shipwrecked)
Gold: Some people think that there is a connection between Shilla
and Scythian gold...I don't remember if Scythians are aryans though...
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Miller
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Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 17:04 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Q: When did Aryans start to scatter?
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Based on what I have read most probably
when they learned how to domesticate horses.
I believe Hitler believed
that Japanese had some Aryan ancestry
but I don't remember what his reasoning
was
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babyblue
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Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 01:33 |
Originally posted by Gubukjanggoon
Well...let's look at this..
Goguryeo wall murals: They have found blondes and blue eye'd people in these wall murals.
Language: I think it's mostly an inluence of Bhuddism...Like Sanskrit adn all that.
Korean's with blue eyes: I actually have heard of these people They're thought to be the descendents of Dutch people who washed up on the shores of Korea..(Shipwrecked)
Gold: Some people think that there is a connection between Shilla and Scythian gold...I don't remember if Scythians are aryans though...
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awww you think koreans are related to everything..
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KoreanEmpire
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 04:46 |
Not true.
Koreans are Koreans.
We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god.
That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race.
But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan.
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans.
http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm
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babyblue
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 05:00 |
Originally posted by KoreanEmpire
Not true.
Koreans are Koreans.
We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god.
That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race.
But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan.
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans.
http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm
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you know what? i like korean girls...
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KoreanEmpire
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 05:15 |
I think Korean girls are the best in the world.
We have best looking in Asia.
I heard it was written in some western historical records.
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babyblue
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 05:20 |
Originally posted by KoreanEmpire
I think Korean girls are the best in the world.
We have best looking in Asia.
I heard it was written in some western historical records.
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yeah that's why i like them so much....(drooling...)
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Scytho-Sarmatian
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 05:29 |
If Koreans really do think that they are the ancestors of English people, that would PROVE they have an inferiority complex.
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babyblue
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 05:50 |
Originally posted by Scytho-Sarmatian
If Koreans really do think that they are the ancestors of English people, that would PROVE they have an inferiority complex. |
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 21:09 |
Originally posted by KoreanEmpire
Not true.
Koreans are Koreans.
We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god.
That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race.
But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan.
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans.
http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm
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IMHO Homogenity is a nice myth.
We're probably the descendants of many groups of people including the Yemaek and the Han.
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demon
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 09:57 |
you know what? i like korean girls... |
OMG. Still obsessed with tiffany?
If Koreans really do think that they are the ancestors of English people, that would PROVE they have an inferiority complex. |
So, if they don't, it would prove Koreans don't have inferiority complex?
Q: When did Aryans start to scatter? A: We can respond to this question through the language they spoke. From a linguistic standpoint, Aryan language has influenced the entire world and Korean language contains around 200 Aryan words. You must know that Koreans are totally different from Japanese and Chinese. We may find tall Koreans with blue eyes but we rarely find such cases in Japan or China. Therefore, Aryans have even affected the Korean culture. Ancient Persian terms are also used in West and North Europe -- Finland and Hungary. If we follow up the roots we will find that Aryans had not started to scatter even in the fifth millenium BC.
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I'm not sure if there's korean with blue eyes, but there's korean with big eyes- particularly among the Anyang Hong family. I don't know if it counts though, but I've read an article about a traditional Korean folk song called "Arirang". There's a lot of versions, depending on region, so I'll focus with one.
The title basically means, according to the article, a song about Ari. Not sure if it's Aryan, or has anything related though. But it's very mysteriouly strange- there has been many interpretations to this song. Check one of the lyrics:
-Ari ari rang Suri suri rang arari ga nat ne
Ari and Suri were born in Arari(ari river)
Who knows? Could be.
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Grrr..
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MengTzu
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 16:17 |
Originally posted by demon
If Koreans really do think that they are the ancestors of English people, that would PROVE they have an inferiority complex. |
So, if they don't, it would prove Koreans don't have inferiority complex?
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Faulty logic. What you said is called incorrect negation. For example, "if it is a cat, it has fur." Does it mean if it's NOT a cat, it has no fur? That's incorrection negation. (I just like to point out faulty uses of logic. I'm really not a part of this debate. Carry on. )
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MengTzu
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 16:21 |
Originally posted by Gubook Janggoon
IMHO Homogenity is a nice myth.
We're probably the descendants of many groups of people including the Yemaek and the Han.
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I dun wanna turn this into a "everyone let's love everyone" thread, but I do believe there is Korean blood in the Han population as well. Case in point, a group of Koreans were transferred to China during Tang (have no freaking clue why.) Heck, I might be a descendant of them. I'm often mistaken as Korean (especially by middle age Korean women, but they were probably just wishful.)
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Cywr
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 16:27 |
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans. |
Does that explain the English obsession with tea and snobbery?
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Arrrgh!!"
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 17:33 |
Originally posted by Cywr
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans. |
Does that explain the English obsession with tea and snobbery?
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Damn straight.
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Mystic
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 21:43 |
Originally posted by KoreanEmpire
Not true.
Koreans are Koreans.
We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god.
That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race.
But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan.
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans.
http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm
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My my aren't we a wee bit on the nationalistic side? A word to the wise from now on, anyone who would use the term "Korean race" or "Chinese race" or "Russian race" etc. is living proof that he/she is full of it. Why? Because they is no such thing as a Korean/Chinese/Russian race. Any one who is even partially educated would know this.
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Cywr
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 23:51 |
The word 'race' has many contexts, and it is indeed possible to speak
of a 'Russian race' in the traditional context of the usage of the word
(basicly implying 'ethnicity or nationality' or simply 'a people'). Its
not
all skulls and noses.
Though many nationalists do convieniently mix traditional and modern
contexts together, making for some amusing (if not dodgy) tales.
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Arrrgh!!"
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babyblue
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 02:04 |
Originally posted by Gubook Janggoon
Originally posted by Cywr
In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans. |
Does that explain the English obsession with tea and snobbery?
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Damn straight.
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hey i didn't know koreans were big on tea..
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demon
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 09:55 |
hey i didn't know koreans were big on tea.. |
Neither did I. I thought Koreans preferred to drink canned coffee.
Faulty logic. What you said is called incorrect negation. For example, "if it is a cat, it has fur." Does it mean if it's NOT a cat, it has no fur? That's incorrection negation. (I just like to point out faulty uses of logic. I'm really not a part of this debate. Carry on. )
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I was wondering if any forummers passed Geometry.
Does that explain the English obsession with tea and snobbery? |
I don't know...but if English decended from Koreans, they should have a strong taste for chili sause that is nearly in its boiling point.
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Grrr..
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