Lost black civilization in Caucasus?

I have seen kurumbas.Their have both curly as well as straight hairs.Kurumba men generally have curly hairs.

Can we be sure it was a product of the Bulgars? Or was it merely an "import?"

There is no way to know for sure!

Art is art!

Someone obviously spent a lot of dinars for them, and then supposedly hid them!

Edited by opuslola - 30-Nov-2010 at 15:38

K-K wrote;

"You never heard about the Thracians? Unbelievable!"

Of course you id--t, I have heard of them!

Do you know everything about them?

Are you someone that is quoted in papers concerning the times of the Thracians etc.?

Just whom do you think you are?

You are mostly a curly pigs tail!

No "oink" comes from your end only "gas!"

I only suggested that these golden things might well be "imported!", can you deny it?

If so, prove it!

And, yes! I have seen numerous examples of Thracian gold work in the past, but just how much of it depicted "Africans?"

Or should I call them "African-Thracians?"

You do know that this very area is or has been for a few centuries considered as the very home of the "Ayrans!"/ "Caucasians", don't you?

Were Aryans ever considered as "Africans?"

Except by you?

So why did you not post this?

http://bulgaria.domino.bg/panagyurishte/eng/12-04.htm

My humble regards,

Edited by opuslola - 30-Nov-2010 at 17:48

Dear K-K,

I guess I did not mention that reportedly Egypt sent troops to defend Troy! Are these your Thracians? Did they get left there? Or were they the "Originals?"

If so it kind of ruins the "Out of Africa" theory!

But, it is true that the Ottomans actually conquered and made their capitol in Thrace, before conquering the Byzantines!

So, in that case, moving things up the timeline a few centuries or more, then I could see whereby troops from Africa/Egypt, etc., which might well have accompained the army of Mehammed II, and his father, might well have occupied this area for centuries?

Does this idea help or detract from your opinion?

Regards,

While I don't know how much faith you place in accounts of this war, the following backs me up!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memnon_(mythology)

"In Greek mythology, Memnon (Greek: Mέμνων) was an Ethiopian king and son of Tithonus and Eos. As a warrior he was considered to be almost Achilles' equal in skill. At the Trojan War, he brought an army to Troy's defense and was killed by Achilles in retribution for killing Antilochus. The death of Memnon echoes that of Hector, another defender of Troy whom Achilles also killed out of revenge for a fallen comrade, Patroclus. After Memnon's death, Zeus was moved by Eos' tears and granted her immortality. Memnon's death is related at length in the lost epic Aethiopis, composed after The Iliad circa the 7th century BC. Quintus of Smyrna records Memnon's death in Posthomerica. His death is also described in Philostratus' Imagines.

[edit] Memnon in Quintus of Smyrna's Posthomerica
Memnon arrives at Troy in the immediate aftermath of an argument between Polydamas, Helen, and Priam that centers on whether or not the Aethiopian King will show up at all. Memnon's army is described as being too big to be counted and his arrival starts a huge banquet in his honour. As per usual the two leaders (Memnon and, in this case, Priam) end the dinner by exchanging glorious war stories, and Memnon's tales lead Priam to declare that the Aethiopian King will be Troy's saviour. Despite this, Memnon is very humble and warns that his strength will hopefully be seen in battle, although he believes it is unwise to boast at dinner. Before the next day's war, so great was the divine love towards Memnon, Zeus makes all the other Olympians promise not to interfere with the fighting. In battle, Memnon kills Nestor's son,.."

So, c'mon man! Do you really not know the story?

You can find a lot more here!

http://www.ask.com/web?&o=101881&l=dis&q=memnon%20of%20etheopia


Edited by opuslola - 01-Dec-2010 at 11:50

Can somebody post more data about Thracians..? Illyrians too..?

Opuslola wrote-

Originally posted by opuslola - - - I cannot help it if that great purveyor of fakes (Heinrich Schliemann) put one over on the museum! - - - I would even suggest that he actually had Pirams treasure manufactured! As well as the "mask!" of old Agemennon, etc.! - - -

Kanas_Krumesis wrote-

Dear K-K!

Again I do not identify the finds in the mounds of Thrace as having anything to do with the Ottoman Empire, or Muslims in general! Actually it is strange how the current of discussion has led this entire thread away from its own title!

Should we not be discussing the Caucasus, and the chances of an African group actually becoming a fixture there some years ago?

If so, then perhaps we should steer our way back to it?