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    Posted: 22-Jun-2006 at 19:11
Can someone help me with text about Eugen's battle at Senta (Zenta) 1697 and Petrovaradin (Peterwardein) 1716.
     
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Look here and here
 
More detailed description regarding Peterwardein (but in german) you can find here
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Originally posted by TJK

Look here and here
 
More detailed description regarding Peterwardein (but in german) you can find here
 
he he he he he
 
that is my web page.
 
i seek for other sourses...
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It seems like you are looking for extra details for your text, considering you already even prepared a web page for it :)
 
A small detail: Ottoman Grand Vizier Silahtar Ali Pasha died in action during the Battle of Petervaradin.
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Originally posted by Kapikulu

It seems like you are looking for extra details for your text, considering you already even prepared a web page for it :)
 
A small detail: Ottoman Grand Vizier Silahtar Ali Pasha died in action during the Battle of Petervaradin.

Who is Silahtar Ali Pasha?
 
We know only Damad Ali Pasha?
Do you have more information? We write book about that battle but we dont have any Ottoman sourse.
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I read a book by Godfrey goodwin about Prinz Eugen that was pretty decent. He also was a big ottoman historian I think. Your zenta website pretty much covers what I read though heh.
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Originally posted by Gundamor

I read a book by Godfrey goodwin about Prinz Eugen that was pretty decent. He also was a big ottoman historian I think. Your zenta website pretty much covers what I read though heh.
 
My web page is just peterwardein.com.
Soory for that mictacke.
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Actually I made a mistake as well Goodwin was mostly only an Ottoman historian. Not sure what author I read Prinz Eugens bioagraphy. Sorry
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Prinz Eugen was an SS unit.
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Prinz Eugen was an SS unit.


It was also a German Battle Cruiser. All named after the same man
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I know lot about Senta 1697

Petrovaradin 1716, very little
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Originally posted by Gundamor

Originally posted by machine

Prinz Eugen was an SS unit.


It was also a German Battle Cruiser. All named after the same man
 
 

The World War I British monitor HMS Prince Eugene, Austro-Hungarian battleship Prinz Eugen, and the World War II German 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen, heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen and Italian light cruiser Eugenio di Savoia were named after Eugene of Savoy, who was the only person whose name was given to warships of four different navies.
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A picture of the famous general:
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Prinz Eugen, der edle Ritter, wollt' dem Kaiser wiedrum kriegen Stadt und Festung Belgerad. Er Liess schlagen einen Brucken, dass man kunnt hin uber rukken mit d'r Armee wohl vor die Stadt

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Originally posted by Marshal_Vauban

Originally posted by Kapikulu

It seems like you are looking for extra details for your text, considering you already even prepared a web page for it :)
 
A small detail: Ottoman Grand Vizier Silahtar Ali Pasha died in action during the Battle of Petervaradin.

Who is Silahtar Ali Pasha?
 
We know only Damad Ali Pasha?
Do you have more information? We write book about that battle but we dont have any Ottoman sourse.
 
They are the same person actually :)
 
He was called Silahtar Damat Ali Pasha...Silahtar has two meanings 1-Gun-carrier, 2- Your associate during the war..
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