Israel vs Lebanon, the sequel

Originally posted by Zagros ^ here here. France and Britian are to blame more than anyone for Israel's power over the rest of the region.   completely true, but to say the US, if it has the will to, can't curb ISraeli melevolance is hogwash. Truth is, Israel is the cornerstone of American foreign policy in the ME (thanks to its lobbies) and as such has free reign to do as it pleases to whomever int he region.  This statement is backed by recent Harvard research on the subject, the bottom line of which was that ISrael has an unhealthy influence over US policy, something that was blatantly obvious to anyone with any common sense before anyway.

Agreed. The Jewish lobby in the US is disturbingly powerful. No lobby, no matter their politcal platform, should be that powerful.

Bush, will have to act sooner or later. He si already feuding with Rice. Rice thinks Israel has gone too far, and Bush obviously believes they have the right to defend themselves. Oil his $77/barrel USD, and Bush will have to eventually act if the price of oil continues to rise.

I was also watching the news and it appears there will undoubtedly be a regional war. Hamas and the Palestinians are in love with Hezbollah right now. We could see start seeing unprecedented cooperation between the Arab militant groups.

I think the most important thing in this whole issue is that the US is not drawn into the conflict. I have no faith in the Bush administration, and I am concerned he'll get the US invovled directly. Because if that happens, then no one in the world will have the power to reign in israel is things get too out of control


Edited by Illuminati - 14-Jul-2006 at 19:17

Originally posted by malizai_ Originally posted by pikeshot1600   Well, if you "wouldnt expect nothing less." I imagine the F.O. won't be interested.   It wasnt the FO that vetoed, it was mr Bolton. And stop trying to personalise the issue. So spare us the BS, since you r going to need to with justifications like the one given below.   Originally posted by pikeshot1600   the fact that Geo Bush can't stop Israel's actions       Just like a wolf can not keep its teeth from bititng. US should learn to keep its  d*g on a leash and muzzled.

Edited by pikeshot1600 - 14-Jul-2006 at 20:21

Originally posted by Illuminati and about the US veto'ng a UN resolution.... what about the UN resolution that called for Israeli withdrawal from lebanon and in return ordered lebanon to secure the Israeli-Lebanon border and stop hezbollah from attacking israel? How can anyone demand a new UN resolution when Israel is the only one abiding by the last resolution? Those kind of one-sided and arrogant demands are one of the reasons the UN doesn't have much legitimacy.

Pike, You talk like you work for the Center of Stratgic and International Affairs in Washington. You definitaly dont have the alarmist attitude and look at the big picture hah. Do you think Iran will be nuclear capable by the end of the year?

Basically Hezbollah started poking its stick in the hornets, nest..and the hornets responded!!

Originally posted by Komnenos Originally posted by azimuth       if it wants peace it should FIRST end its occupation and leave TOTALLY from the Arabic lands,   after doing that it should compensate its victims for the Crimes it committed against them for more than 50 years.   then we would think that its looking for peace.       Sure, and at the same time should the entire Arab and Islamic world acknowledge the right of Israel and its people to exist.

Edited by azimuth - 15-Jul-2006 at 04:16

I think, that when one country(in this case - Lebanon) cannot stop the terroristic actions of the islamic groups, located in her territory, against her neighbours, then that is not a country, but only an area.

And because of that Israel have the right to crush the enemy located in that area with all possible millitary actions.

That is`nt an israely invasion in "the country of Lebanon", but an offensive against the area where are located the enemy forces.

Edited by The Chargemaster - 15-Jul-2006 at 04:53

Originally posted by Spartacus On whose  f**king authority are Israelis attacking in a  foreign soil?On whose f**king  authority are Israelis bombarding the infrastructure of a foreign nation ? Israel does not own Lebanon.Lebanon is an independent State ,got it?

If Israel don`t do nothing, the islamic groups will attack his territory everyday, and will kill jews everyday. Got it?
And because of that, they must be crushed with all possible ways, even they are located on the moon!

Edited by The Chargemaster - 15-Jul-2006 at 05:08

And if Lebanon is "independent state", i can say that the terrorist islamic groups are independent too. They have`nt a ruler, except their religious leaders. If you let him, they also will use your home to attack Israel.