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Topic: Israel vs Lebanon, the sequel Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:18 |
Islamic groups are attacking ,because Israel is demolishing Gaza every f**king year.You people always talk about Islamic terrorism while forgetting Israeli terrorism.And according to your pethatic logic,if a Bulgarian organization kidnapps Turkish soldiers,then the Turkish Air Force should bomb Sofia!Man,you are ridiculous!
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:22 |
Originally posted by Spartacus
Islamic groups are not the official goverment of Lebanon,are they? ARE THEY? |
They are`nt. ===> It seems that they have at least a moral support from the official government of Lebanon.
And their training camps are in Lebanon and in Siria. Their weapons are in Lebanon and Siria. These things must be destroyed/removed, but not supported by the official government of Lebanon.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:25 |
The only one who has the right to destroy /remove Hezdolah's weapons on Lebanese soil are the Lebanese themeselves and nobody else.If Israel wants to stop Hezbolah ,then it can do so on it's own soil,not in foreign soil.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:31 |
Originally posted by Spartacus
And according to your pethatic logic,if a Bulgarian organization
kidnapps Turkish soldiers,then the Turkish Air Force should bomb
Sofia! |
According to me, dear, since the country of Lebanon supports the
actions of these terroristic groups, they must be punished and that`s
what happend there.
And i don`t live in Sofia, so i don`t care so much about Sofia.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:34 |
That my friend is the exact think Osama thought when he attacked the States.And that my friend is called f**kING TERRORISM!
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:39 |
Israel is just proving that it's not a legal state.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:40 |
Originally posted by Spartacus
The only one who has the right to destroy /remove Hezdolah's weapons on
Lebanese soil are the Lebanese themeselves and nobody else.If Israel
wants to stop Hezbolah ,then it can do so on it's own soil,not in foreign soil. |
According to you all american military bases must be removed right now,
because novadays the most important reason for their existence is a
fight against the terrorism .
And i don`t think that anyone in Lebanon can remove the camps of Hezbollah. What do you think about this?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:42 |
Originally posted by Spartakus
The only one who has the right to destroy /remove Hezdolah's weapons on Lebanesesoil are the Lebanese themeselves and nobody else.If Israel wants to stop Hezbolah ,then it can do so on it's own soil,not in foreign soil. |
So they should just sit back while rockets are lobbed into their country? While grps originating out of Lebanon come into Israel and kill Israelis then return to Lebanon soil? Israeli is fighting for its survival right now. Everything is against them and every move they make could be disasterous. Lebanon is an unfortunate victim in a much larger scale conflict.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:44 |
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Israel is just proving that it's not a legal state. |
Oh, Israel is a legal state many more than the
Arabian Haliphate which conquered these lands from Byzantine Empire in
VII century.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:46 |
According to you all american military bases must be removed right now, because novadays the most important reason for their existence is a fight against the terrorism
Don't compare incomparable situations.American bases in foreign soils exist due to the alliances between the host countries and the USA.If the host country is a democracy with a democratically elected goverment,then there is nothing illegal in that.But,if the goverment of the host country is a dictatorship,then it is illegal ,thus the bases must be removed.
And i don`t think that anyone in Lebanon can remove the camps of Hezbollah. What do you think about this?
Nobody has the right to violate the National Integrity of a Democratic State in a period of peace.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:50 |
Originally posted by Spartacus
Nobody has the right to violate the National Integrity of a Democratic State in a period of peace. |
Well, OK, but what must be the future of the training camps of Hezbollah, according to you?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:51 |
So they should just sit back while rockets are lobbed into their country? While grps originating out of Lebanon come into Israel and kill Israelis then return to Lebanon soil? Israeli is fighting for its survival right now. Everything is against them and every move they make could be disasterous. Lebanon is an unfortunate victim in a much larger scale conflict.
Why people are so arrogant and stupid?
Hey bro,let me clear out for you:Lebanon is an independent State.That's why there are borders between it and Israel.That's why Israel has not right to attack into foreign soil.
I will use the same example for you :If a Canadian organization kidnapps 2 US soldiers,then,according to you, the US Air force has the right to bomb your capital,the factory from which you have electricity,the water supplies from which you drink your water,the road from which you drive to your work every day.Do you realise what a State is?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 05:56 |
Well, OK, but what must be the future of the training camps of Hezbollah, according to you?
That lies on the Lebanese Goverment and people,not Israel because Lebanon is an Independent State with it's own Law,Goverment and Constitution.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 06:01 |
Even if Israel has the right to invade Lebanon to exterminate the terrorists who reside there...
Carpet bombing airports, government buildings and killing innocent people is definitely something a legal state won't do.
Don't even try to defend it, it's pathetic.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 06:02 |
The Chargemaster
here some Colors for you.
Israel is the one Terrorising its neighbours everyday and night 24/7
Israel is the one with WMD including nuclear weapons.
Israel is the one Punishing innocent people for what minority do
Israel is the one which claim to be the only democratic state in the region at the same time violate many many UN resolutions.
Israel Kidnap, Kill and prison and Destroy whatever it wants when ever it wants.
Israel has more than 10000 Arab prisoners from Palestine, Lebanon and Syria, including children and women.
Israel is occupying Arab's (Golan heights, Gaza strip, West Bank and South Lebanon)
Israel is building Illegal walls and Illegal Settlements in those occupied lands ( all Illegal as per the UN).
Israel is a nation which most of its people are Immigrants from Europe, big percentage of those were CONVERTED TO JUDAISIM and NOT HEBREWS, STILL they claim Israel as their Land WHY? BECAUSE they think GOD gave it to them not because their ancestors lived their thousands of years ago.
you are an Ignorant who has no idea whats happening in the region, and iam NOT saying that as an insult but as a fact, you are ignorant.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 06:04 |
Originally posted by Spartacus
I will use the same example for you :If a Canadian organization
kidnapps 2 US soldiers,then,according to you, the US Air force has the
right to bomb your capital,the factory from which you have
electricity,the water supplies from which you drink your water,the road
from which you drive to your work every day.Do you realise what a State
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The attacks of Hezbollah are not from yesterday. Every people knows that.
So what about the israeli towns, water supplies, roads and citizens?
How they can be protected from the missle attacks of Hezbollah? Maybe
with sleeping and dreaming, or how?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 06:10 |
So what about the israeli towns, water supplies, roads and citizens? How they can be protected from the missle attacks of Hezbollah? Maybe with sleeping and dreaming, or how?
Nobody said that they shouldn't be protected by Israelis,because they are in Israeli territory,thus they are in the responsibility of the Israeli State.Israel has every right to attack or to defend or to protect itself on its own soil,but not in foreign soil.And that is what Lebanon is for Israel and for International Law and Community:A FOREIGN SOIL.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 06:13 |
Originally posted by azimuth
you are an Ignorant who has no idea whats happening in the region, and
iam saying that as an insult but as a fact, you are ignorant. |
OK, i know that i am not expert in that theme. But have i the right to kill greeks because after 1912 Greece conquered many lands where were living bulgarians and send off or kill many of them?
I don`t think so.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 06:48 |
i did not say Arabs has right to kill Jews or israelis.
all arabs want is Israel take its soldiers and control of Arab lands, and Leave the people alone and quite stealing more of their land.
obviously Israel is not willing to do that, therefore Israel is not looking for peace.
Israel has military power as one of the strongest countries in the world. and Israel is only 6 million in population.
this Zionist country is preparing for wars, and looking for excuses to kill and occupy Arabs.
1 soldier = destruction of all Gaza stripe, killed many children and women and entire families.
2 soldiers= destruction of All Lebanon, killed entire families and innocent civilians.
Hizbullah is NOT all Lebanon, they are mostly in the SOUTH, Beirut is in the North and its Sunnie majority city,
the Airport the sea Ports, the Borders and the entire Economy of an Entire country with millions of people for the sake of 2 soilders???? and you say they are defending themselvs? are you crazy?
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Posted: 15-Jul-2006 at 07:13 |
Yes, exactly - Israel is not looking for peace.
And all brave arabian
fighters against Israel, only helps to his agressive actions.
So i
think, that there are no signification/use of the attacks of Hezbollah
against israeli settlements with missles. If the arabian countries want
to
defend themselves from Israel, they must to do this officially(from the
names of the governments), but not with organisations like Hezbolla, because their
actions are with terroristic character by this reason: they are actions of one organisation, but they are`nt
actions of concrete country/political state. And
it seems to me that every time when Hezbolla do attacks of that sort,
this is a very good(and very wanted) reason for Israel to commit a
bloodly responce.
What do you think about this?
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