Burka vs Bikini ???

Originally posted by Master_Blaster I love how the feminists think that if a girl isn't having premarital sex or isn't promisicuous - then she must be oppressed! ROFL   No wonder Western men are such pussies. Their women have the cocks.

I've yet to meet a woman with a cock, but if I do, I'm sure we can work something out, especially if she's wearing a bikini.

Burkas? Come on, even the Muslims must be able to see how drab it looks, at this point they must be wearing them solely out of spite.

Very well said, Flyingzone!     

Even better said, Teldeinduz.

Of course, in the middle east, if the man should apply for divorce that will in some weird way inflict a greater social stigma on the woman than the man. We can't escape the fact, no matter how we twist and turn it, that women in the middle east have fewer choices in life than men, even if men too are restricted.

As for your second paragraph, TeldeInduz, it's funny you should say so because not long ago a glamour model made a stunt out of walking naked through the capital here, without any negative consequences. I don't think this is such an impossibility in the most tolerant of the western countries, but doing it will draw a whole lot of attention as well as embarassment for all but the most courageous. I can't help but doubt how attractive it truly is to walk around in the birthday suit, personally I'd never consider it but if someone desires to do so it's of really no matter to me.

IMO, the key to sexy clothing is not showing everything while not hiding it too well either.

Nah, I'm too shy. 

Originally posted by Zagros how about bikini under the burka?

Originally posted by flyingzone Originally posted by TeldeInduz    If society pressures women to stay married, the same could be said of men being pressured to stay married. I don't think there's some gender specific factor in this. Personal opinion is that it's just people's outlooks on the thing possibly with some cultural influences. It's actually more difficult on the man sometimes to stay married to a woman and bring up their kids together than for a man to run off and lead the woman to bring them up by herself.     I think to argue whether men or women "suffer more" when it comes to societial pressure on marriages is a little bit silly, in my opinion. Even in the Western world, patriarchy is still very much the norm. Yes, men do "suffer", but if you are trying to argue that they do to the same extent that women do, you need a reality check of the status of women all over the world.   I think the "point" that you brought up can only be a side argument, not a main one.

Originally posted by Zagros how about bikini under the burka?

I love how the feminists think that if a girl isn't having premarital sex or isn't promisicuous - then she must be oppressed! ROFL As a woman I find this statement very condescending and belittleing..  Feminists think females should have the same power as men make the choice whether to have or not to have sex before or after marriage.  It is a very personal decision and should be respected as such.  Feminisn is not only about sexual choices, it is about life choices and the ability to make these choices freely and accept responsiblity for them.    That acceptence of responsibility seems to be missing from machismo(I am sure some male in this forum will attempt to 'correct' this assumption).  Ever notice how people with daughters are sometimes so much more restrictive with the daughters than sons?  It would be interesting to hear the reasons put forward for this.

Originally posted by annechka I love how the feminists think that if a girl isn't having premarital sex or isn't promisicuous - then she must be oppressed! ROFL As a woman I find this statement very condescending and belittleing..  Feminists think females should have the same power as men make the choice whether to have or not to have sex before or after marriage.  It is a very personal decision and should be respected as such.  Feminisn is not only about sexual choices, it is about life choices and the ability to make these choices freely and accept responsiblity for them.    That acceptence of responsibility seems to be missing from machismo(I am sure some male in this forum will attempt to 'correct' this assumption).  Ever notice how people with daughters are sometimes so much more restrictive with the daughters than sons?  It would be interesting to hear the reasons put forward for this.

 

It was condescending and belittling to feminists � but not to women.  I agree with you in that, both women and men ought to have the same rights in making personal choices that directly affect them � I just do not believe that either side should propagate their views. If a feminist wants to believe that she is achieving equality and working for the enhancement of women by being the office slut � then that is her right, I just do not want to see her forcing that view upon others.

 

As far as the second part of your statement is concerned, what is so wrong with treating your son somewhat differently than your daughter? Females are far more vulnerable than males. It is far more likely that a young female would be taken advantage of if she were out late with some guy friends. I do not see anything wrong with being overprotective of your female kind.