Burka vs Bikini ???

If they were wearing nothing underneath the Burka i reckon it could be very close indeed.

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim People who are out to 'have fun' often will divorce when the 'fun' ceases and the responsability starts. It is not uncommon for a marriage to break up in middle age - when the girl ceases to be attractive and the man goes looking for more 'fun'.

You are not looking at events with a larger perspective. After the war started, the muslim women increased the use of Burkhas in afghanistan due to the increasing dominance of the Mujahideen in their social structure. same was the case elsewhere.

In Iraq or Iran, during saddam or the Shah or Afghans under their king, the burkhas were not popular with the educated, elite populations. But you will certainly not deny that the majority of these countries  was basically rural, where the traditions of islam held sway & the muslim men had the same thought process they had in medivieal ages.

As for the women, no woman likes to be covered in Burkha. Its not a female choice, its a compulsion put by males. Otherwise why do women throw off the burkha as soon as the impending threat of Mujahiddeen, fanatics, Islamisation etc.. is removed and / or the women aquire education / independendce.

Take the case of India, the rural / backward / uneducated muslim women or those with traditional muslim backgrounds still wear the burkha. But the educated / liberated muslim women or those from such families dont. I had mentioned previously that some of the most famous female film & TV stars (In India this is a career which requires continious, sustained exposure of the body) were & are muslim women.

Not only this a good observation is kashmir. Everytime the terrorism goes up, the burkhas appear and beauty parlours disappear. No sooner the security forces are able to rein in the terrorists, the burkhas, beauty parlours open again.

Originally posted by Vivek Sharma You are not looking at events with a larger perspective. After the war started, the muslim women increased the use of Burkhas in afghanistan due to the increasing dominance of the Mujahideen in their social structure. same was the case elsewhere.

Originally posted by Maziar If the both partner figure out there is no love lost between them or they have not many things in commun or they can't understand eachother so what is the best way for them? of course divorcing, this has not to do with "having fun". You again try to present how careless and frivolous people around the world are to claime how good are muslims families.

This has absolutely nothing to do wth religion. As I said: "People regardless of culture who enter into a marraige because they are looking for a stable marriage and to have a family are probably much more likely not to divorce than two people who madly fall in love."
I was not aware that looking for a stable marriage was a religious trait.

Originally posted by Morticia I agree with Vivek in that Muslim women dress according to how the males have dictated for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Muslim women were and are still considered "possessions" to their male counterparts, and, obviously she must "obey" and "do as she is told" to keep the honor in the family intact. Obviously, men feel they are protecting their possessions and want their women "covered up" so as not to provoke any unnecessary sexual urges which some males can't seem to control. Maybe Burkas are considered the safest method of preventing or minimizing rapes. Who knows?

No offense Morty but thats a utter load of rubbish. If you don't know jack about other cultures don't presume you do, it just gives a bad impression of yourself to other people.

Edited by Omar al Hashim - 30-Aug-2006 at 05:05

Yes they do wear burkhas.

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim No offense Morty but thats a utter load of rubbish. If you don't know jack about other cultures don't presume you do, it just gives a bad impression of yourself to other people.

Well, no offense, but you don't know jack about being a woman, so don't presume that you do, it just gives an even worse impression of males and their inflated egos!   
    

Edited by morticia - 30-Aug-2006 at 14:16

originally said by teldeinduz,

Even by that incorrect definition, the Kashmiri militants have declared war on Indian troops in Kashmir.

& Who are these Mujahideen of lashkar - e - toiba, jaish - e - mumhammad etc.. etc.. based, trained & armed.

Dear the problem in Kashmir is not the Kashmiri. Its the support in terms of training, arms, money, logistics, camps, bases, provided by Pak. JKLF, the coice of kashmiris was extinguished by pak long back.

Its the Pak habit of fighting hidden wars thats the root of the problem. Even in Kargill they didnt admit of the war, refused to take back the body of Col. Sher Khan initially, but after the Indian media brought it out, awarded the Nishan -e- hyder to him.

They refuted any involvement of their military in the war. But raised the Northern light Infantry to full regimental status as a token of their sacrifices in the war, when the indian media started saying that it were the pathans who were sent into the battlefield & were dying in thousands
so that there are no visible effects in punjab, which dominates the Pak polity.

Later off course, the spat between Nawaz Sharif & Musharraf brought out all the facts in the open. & rest is history

Originally posted by Vivek Sharma originally said by teldeinduz, Even by that incorrect definition, the Kashmiri militants have declared war on Indian troops in Kashmir. & Who are these Mujahideen of lashkar - e - toiba, jaish - e - mumhammad etc.. etc.. based, trained & armed. Dear the problem in Kashmir is not the Kashmiri. Its the support in terms of training, arms, money, logistics, camps, bases, provided by Pak. JKLF, the coice of kashmiris was extinguished by pak long back. Its the Pak habit of fighting hidden wars thats the root of the problem. Even in Kargill they didnt admit of the war, refused to take back the body of Col. Sher Khan initially, but after the Indian media brought it out, awarded the Nishan -e- hyder to him. They refuted any involvement of their military in the war. But raised the Northern light Infantry to full regimental status as a token of their sacrifices in the war, when the indian media started saying that it were the pathans who were sent into the battlefield & were dying in thousands so that there are no visible effects in punjab, which dominates the Pak polity. Later off course, the spat between Nawaz Sharif & Musharraf brought out all the facts in the open. & rest is history

Edited by TeldeInduz - 01-Sep-2006 at 14:09