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When i looked into the subject more deeply i found out some horrific facts.

The English president fefuses Ecevit's offer to make sure the greeks are no harmed

The greek general Grevaz(can't spell it properly)attcks civilians while the Turks battle with terrorists

All of the Turks would have been killed if turkey had not interfered.Not even one of them left out.(how very just)

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You turks are hilarious

Its amazing how your governments propaganda has persuaded you that all these genocides never happened, and that the invasion of Cyprus was a peace keeping operation

I've lived in Cyprus all my life, and i know how people have suffered due to Turkish atrocities

Even at times of peace, your soldiers murder with ever chance they get and still get away with it

Remember ISAAK and SOLOMOU?

Remember all those Cypriot soldiers you murdered because they were in range?

Remember the Cypriot hunter you shot dead JUST because he strayed into the "no-mans" land

There are many Greeks and Armenians here who are only here because they had to flee from the vicious Turks , and these people lost everything (Smyrna anyone?)

Oh...and about the Annan plan. The plan was a farce! Compensation was going to be paid to the refugees for the loss of their lands in 1974.By whom? OUR GOVERNMENT. The Turkish"cypriots" only voted for the plan because of the economic benefits they would be getting, and not because they want reunification

As soon as our EU entrance was sealed, the turkishCypriots remembered us and started calling us their brothers.

Im asking the turkish users of this forum to read the Annan plan and honestly tell me if they expected the Greek side to accept such an outrageous plan

 

Its funny how a nation that has caused so much bloodshed can convince its people that nothing ever happened

you will be hearing from me again soon



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Originally posted by aknc

When i looked into the subject more deeply i found out some horrific facts.

The English president fefuses Ecevit's offer to make sure the greeks are no harmed

The greek general Grevaz(can't spell it properly)attcks civilians while the Turks battle with terrorists

All of the Turks would have been killed if turkey had not interfered.Not even one of them left out.(how very just)

If you actually looked into the subject more deeply, you would find out horrific facts occured also by the horrific actions by your own people at that time. But this would be the case, if you werent the one-sided ultra pathetic hating person who came here to label ALL  the 1517 missing persons from the invasion of 1974 as sick murderers justifying this way their killings from your murdering thugs.

But since you like to be the one driven by his hate agenda towards Greek-Cypriots and you justify ALL the atrocities of your murdering thugs in Cyprus allow me to contribute.

Conveniently for your hate agenda, you avoided to mention the actions/killings of the terrorist group Turk Mukavemet Teskilati (TMT), founded by Denktash and supported by turkish government.

Its well known to everybody Denktash and in general TMTs strategy was to provoke inter-ethnic conflicts with the aim of securing the separation of the two communities.

But lets see what a turkish diplomat has to say about the first serious inter-communal fighting who took place in June 1958 and was the result of TMT actions

 Mr Emin Dirvana, a former Turkish diplomat, said: `I was informed that on 7 June 1958 a bomb had been planted in the Turkish press office in Nicosia by persons who, as was later established, had nothing to do with the Greek Cypriots. The Turks of Nicosia were then incited to be overwhelmed by holy indignation and perpetrated acts similar to those committed on 6 and 7 September 1995 in Istanbul.

In the ITN documentary `Cyprus, Britains Grim Legacy the account continues:

`The explosion sparked off a night of riot in Nicosia. Turkish Cypriots burned and looted Greek shops and homes. Soon came counter attacks and the fighting spread around the island. A friend of mine, whose name must still be kept secret, was to confess to me that he had put this little bomb in the doorway in order to create an atmosphere of tension so that people would know that the Turkish Cypriots mattered.
The riots in Nicosia caused by the bomb in the Turkish press office, resulted in the deaths of 56 Greek and 53 Turkish Cypriots.

The horrific actions by the terrorist group TMT in Cyprus are endless but i cant avoid not mentioning the murders also of Turkish-Cypriot citizens by your murdering thugs, the publicers Ayhan Hikmet and Ahmet Gurkhan in 1962.

Of course mentioning from your side all the atrocities commited as well by Turk Cypriots would harm your hating agenda plans. Continue being the hating prick which you already showed the people here you are. Its people with low level logic like you who always managed to justify the murders commited of their own side and condemn the other side for doing the exact same thing  and drove Cyprus into the situation it is now.



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Labelling people was not a good thing i agree.Look civilians were killed from the greek side but if turkey had not interfered there wuld no longer be a turkish side.Our population would have gone from %30 to 0.We interfered in %18.And also There were some koordinate system failure and our planes bombed OUr fleet and some civilians.But you must accept the fact that we were there to stop a murderous move.By the way i change my mind,if it is perfectly safe cyprus can unite once more.
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You turks are hilarious

Its amazing how your governments propaganda has persuaded you that all these genocides never happened, and that the invasion of Cyprus was a peace keeping operation

I've lived in Cyprus all my life, and i know how people have suffered due to Turkish atrocities

Even at times of peace, your soldiers murder with ever chance they get and still get away with it

Remember ISAAK and SOLOMOU?

Remember all those Cypriot soldiers you murdered because they were in range?

Remember the Cypriot hunter you shot dead JUST because he strayed into the "no-mans" land

There are many Greeks and Armenians here who are only here because they had to flee from the vicious Turks , and these people lost everything (Smyrna anyone?)

Oh...and about the Annan plan. The plan was a farce! Compensation was going to be paid to the refugees for the loss of their lands in 1974.By whom? OUR GOVERNMENT. The Turkish"cypriots" only voted for the plan because of the economic benefits they would be getting, and not because they want reunification

As soon as our EU entrance was sealed, the turkishCypriots remembered us and started calling us their brothers.

Im asking the turkish users of this forum to read the Annan plan and honestly tell me if they expected the Greek side to accept such an outrageous plan

 

Its funny how a nation that has caused so much bloodshed can convince its people that nothing ever happened

you will be hearing from me again soon

I wish we do!It is horrible for turkish soldiers to kill other soldiers or trespassers with prejudice(which was given to us by you)but it is free,normal,just and uninportant for dangerous psychos killing civilians and babies.By the way i'm an american living in turkey so no chance i'm brainwashed.

I dare you to go to the museum of the massackre in the Turkish side.I will find it's name and let you know

A man and his family went and hid in the bathroom during the war.He was a doctor and tryin to protect his family.The greeks found them.The man put his hand over his baby and took the bullets instead.His bloody handmark is still there.But it was not enough for them.One man was not enough.They killed the wife the baby,everyone.

I may be emotional in my posts because i have seen such things in the Turkish side.I dare you to go there and not have tears in your eyes when you come out.

30% to %18.Way to go.........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 05:59
Originally posted by Aeolus

Originally posted by aknc

When i looked into the subject more deeply i found out some horrific facts.

The English president fefuses Ecevit's offer to make sure the greeks are no harmed

The greek general Grevaz(can't spell it properly)attcks civilians while the Turks battle with terrorists

All of the Turks would have been killed if turkey had not interfered.Not even one of them left out.(how very just)

If you actually looked into the subject more deeply, you would find out horrific facts occured also by the horrific actions by your own people at that time. But this would be the case, if you werent the one-sided ultra pathetic hating person who came here to label ALL  the 1517 missing persons from the invasion of 1974 as sick murderers justifying this way their killings from your murdering thugs.

But since you like to be the one driven by his hate agenda towards Greek-Cypriots and you justify ALL the atrocities of your murdering thugs in Cyprus allow me to contribute.

Conveniently for your hate agenda, you avoided to mention the actions/killings of the terrorist group Turk Mukavemet Teskilati (TMT), founded by Denktash and supported by turkish government.

Its well known to everybody Denktash and in general TMTs strategy was to provoke inter-ethnic conflicts with the aim of securing the separation of the two communities.

But lets see what a turkish diplomat has to say about the first serious inter-communal fighting who took place in June 1958 and was the result of TMT actions

 Mr Emin Dirvana, a former Turkish diplomat, said: `I was informed that on 7 June 1958 a bomb had been planted in the Turkish press office in Nicosia by persons who, as was later established, had nothing to do with the Greek Cypriots. The Turks of Nicosia were then incited to be overwhelmed by holy indignation and perpetrated acts similar to those committed on 6 and 7 September 1995 in Istanbul.

In the ITN documentary `Cyprus, Britains Grim Legacy the account continues:

`The explosion sparked off a night of riot in Nicosia. Turkish Cypriots burned and looted Greek shops and homes. Soon came counter attacks and the fighting spread around the island. A friend of mine, whose name must still be kept secret, was to confess to me that he had put this little bomb in the doorway in order to create an atmosphere of tension so that people would know that the Turkish Cypriots mattered.
The riots in Nicosia caused by the bomb in the Turkish press office, resulted in the deaths of 56 Greek and 53 Turkish Cypriots.

The horrific actions by the terrorist group TMT in Cyprus are endless but i cant avoid not mentioning the murders also of Turkish-Cypriot citizens by your murdering thugs, the publicers Ayhan Hikmet and Ahmet Gurkhan in 1962.

Of course mentioning from your side all the atrocities commited as well by Turk Cypriots would harm your hating agenda plans. Continue being the hating prick which you already showed the people here you are. Its people with low level logic like you who always managed to justify the murders commited of their own side and condemn the other side for doing the exact same thing  and drove Cyprus into the situation it is now.

Let me ask; why do all your proofs contain the testamony of 1 man but not solid proofs??

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AEOLUS writes:  "Of course mentioning from your side all the atrocities commited as well by Turk Cypriots would harm your hating agenda plans. Continue being the hating prick which you already showed the people here you are."

This is inappropriate behavior and unethical communication between members of this forum. Even if you feel strongly about your own arguement, do not provoke and diminish the value of this respected forum.

Manson, I also saw the shooting of Solomou. It was an inevitable problem that could have been avoided by both sides. He paid for his beligerence with his life. You fail to mention his provoking behavior and disrespect to the Turkish flag and territory. For days Greek Cypriot motorcycle gangs enticed and instigated problems that were ignored by Turkish forces. When Solomou and his gang crossed the green line and took their politics and harrassment into their own hands, they were met with realistic and consequential force. Arabs in Iraq are met with the same fate when they intrude on American protected military bases.



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Originally posted by Aeolus

Originally posted by aknc

When i looked into the subject more deeply i found out some horrific facts.

The English president fefuses Ecevit's offer to make sure the greeks are no harmed

The greek general Grevaz(can't spell it properly)attcks civilians while the Turks battle with terrorists

All of the Turks would have been killed if turkey had not interfered.Not even one of them left out.(how very just)

Of course mentioning from your side all the atrocities commited as well by Turk Cypriots would harm your hating agenda plans. Continue being the hating prick which you already showed the people here you are. Its people with low level logic like you who always managed to justify the murders commited of their own side and condemn the other side for doing the exact same thing  and drove Cyprus into the situation it is now.

Hating prick?Thank you.I can take that.But being called unlogical by someone that does not have any respectable evidence but still talks is unaccaptable.No i am not justifying our murders but surely you have not yet mentioned a real one.I know the commander that killed  some greeks.But compared to the greek general.Phew!That's enough to say that it was not the Turks that wanted division

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 11:29
Originally posted by MansoN

You turks are hilarious

Its amazing how your governments propaganda has persuaded you that all these genocides never happened, and that the invasion of Cyprus was a peace keeping operation

I've lived in Cyprus all my life, and i know how people have suffered due to Turkish atrocities

Even at times of peace, your soldiers murder with ever chance they get and still get away with it

Remember ISAAK and SOLOMOU?

Remember all those Cypriot soldiers you murdered because they were in range?

Remember the Cypriot hunter you shot dead JUST because he strayed into the "no-mans" land

There are many Greeks and Armenians here who are only here because they had to flee from the vicious Turks , and these people lost everything (Smyrna anyone?)

Oh...and about the Annan plan. The plan was a farce! Compensation was going to be paid to the refugees for the loss of their lands in 1974.By whom? OUR GOVERNMENT. The Turkish"cypriots" only voted for the plan because of the economic benefits they would be getting, and not because they want reunification

As soon as our EU entrance was sealed, the turkishCypriots remembered us and started calling us their brothers.

Im asking the turkish users of this forum to read the Annan plan and honestly tell me if they expected the Greek side to accept such an outrageous plan

 

Its funny how a nation that has caused so much bloodshed can convince its people that nothing ever happened

you will be hearing from me again soon

armenians running away from bloody turks?Cypriots running away?If a group has commited a terrible crime such as a pogrom of course innocent ones will suffer.Nothing to do about it.

Cypriot soldiers in range.Range is territory,territory is border.And after all those macine guns and lights you do not have to put the sign:

"Tresspassers will be shot"

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Look i am a TURKISH CYPRIOT.

If the Turks are so bad then why did the Greeks have TWO terrorist groups (EOKA & EOKA-B)?

If the Turks are so bad then why when they Greeks broke the peace of the republic after only 3 years of existence did Turkey intervene 11 years later?

If the Turks are so bad then why is it that some Turkish villages had the whole male population killed and even worse there was a Turkish village that is totally destroyed with ALL inhabitant massacred?

And yes i know about the TMT, but why did you fail to mention that the TMT was created in order to couinter the EOKA terrorists. And why do you not mention that whilst the EOKA had military weapons the TMT had to buy hunting rifles from the Greeks.

From 1963-1974 the Turks had to endure a lot, in fact the Greek government under the leadership of an Archbishop (i always thought men of religion should promote peace) had to be confined to 3% of cypriot land as they had to go to the UN bases for protection. And yet we voted yes to the annan plan, whilst the Greeks said OXI (no).

we will never go back to pre-1974!

1974 oncesine ASLA donus olamaz!

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EOKA a terrorist group?At least it had the guts to confront the English and liberated the island you are staying in......And akuncu,if you want solid proofs,see my posts some pages before.Turkey is not the saint of the story......And OSMANLI,please do not throw your level so low.As i've said in another topic,nationalism is not for civilized people,but for animals with 2 legs......

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1st Report of the European Commission of Human Rights Turkey's invasion in Cyprus and aftermath (20 JULY 1974 - 18 MAY 1976)

Part of the Introduction

After overruling Turkey's objection the Commission of Human Rights considered: "the evidence before the Commission and the facts established on the basis of this evidence cannot be seen as presenting a view of the events and incidents complained of mainly from the Greek Cypriot side. The Commission observes in this connection that: - certain events and incidents referred to in the applications are in great part a matter of public knowledge. In particular, the massive movement of population from the northern to the southern part of Cyprus after 20 July,1974 is an indisputable fact which, as such, calls for no particular investigation; the Commission has based its findings in part on reports of other international organizations, in particular the United Nations; - the witnesses heard by the Commission's Delegation in Cyprus testified, with little exception, with a restraint and objectivity that gave credibility to their testimony; some of them confirmed a number of statements in the Particulars of the Applications about which they could not have had any direct knowledge; - in the evaluation of the evidence before it, the Commission has refrained from drawing any conclusions from the fact that the respondent Government, despite every opportunity being offered to them, failed to make any statements, or to proposed counterevidence on the applicant Government's allegations". (Report, p.31)

KillingsRelevant Article of the European Convention on Human Rights:

" Everyone's right to life shall be protected by law. No one shall be deprived of his life intentionally." (Article 2)

Charge laid against Turkey:

The Turkish Army embarked upon a systematic course of mass murders of civilians unconnected with any war activity, including women and babies in arms, and soldiers who had surrendered.

Turkish defense:

No answer was given to these charges. Turkey boycotted the Commission's proceedings once her jurisdictional objection was rejected.

Commission's verdict:

By 14 votes to 1 the Commission, after examining a number of killings at specific places, held that the evidence before it constituted "strong indications of killings committed on a substantial scale" (para.346). The Commission concluded: " In view of the very detailed material before it on other killings alleged by the applicant Government, the Commission, by fourteen votes against one, concludes from the whole evidence that killings happened on a larger scale than in Elia. There is nothing to show that any of these deprivations of life were justified... " (Report, p.165)

Further relevant facts:

Greek National Guardsmen and civilians were killed in the field and in bombing raids on civilian targets, including hospitals. In these raids the Turkish Air Force used napalm. These killings were not the subject of the application to the European Commission on Human Rights, being rather breaches of the Geneva Conventions

Displacement of persons (Creating refugees)Relevant Article of the European Convention on Human Rights:

" Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life and his home..." (Article 8)

Charge laid against Turkey:

The Turkish Army displaced 200,000 Greek Cypriots (more than one third of the population) from their homes. This was effected partly by physical expulsion and partly by a systematic campaign of terror, causing Greek Cypriots to flee in the face of Turkey's advancing armed forces. Refugees and expellees were not permitted by the Turkish Army to return to their homes in the Turkish occupied area.

Turkish defense:

No answer was given to these charges. Turkey boycotted the Commission's proceedings once her jurisdictional objection was rejected.

Commission's Verdict:

" Displacement of persons:

1. The Commission concludes by thirteen votes against one that, by the refusal to allow the return of more than 170,000 Greek Cypriot refugees to their homes in the north of Cyprus, Turkey violated, and was continuing to violate Art. 8 of the Convention in all these cases. When hostilities ended some Greek Cypriots were able to return to their homes near the cease-fire lines in areas under UN or Government control thus reducing the number of refugees to 170,000.
2. The Commission concludes by twelve votes against one that, by the eviction of Greek Cypriots from houses, including their homes, by their transportation to other places within the north of Cyprus, or by their deportation across the demarcation line, Turkey has equally violated Art. 8 of the Convention.
3. The Commission concludes by thirteen votes against one that by the refusal to allow the return to their homes in the north of Cyprus of several thousand Greek Cypriots who had been transferred to the south under inter-communal agreements, Turkey violated, and was continuing to violate Art. 8 of the Convention in all these cases.

4. The Commission concludes by fourteen votes against one with one abstention that, by the separation of Greek Cypriot families brought about by measures of displacement in a substantial number of cases, Turkey has again violated Art.8 of the Convention." (Report, p.163).

Charge laid against Turkey:

The Turkish armed forces detained thousands of persons arbitrarily and without lawful authority. On entering any inhabited area they immediately rounded up all Greek Cypriot inhabitants (many women & children were hiding in their homes). On capture men were separated and detained apart from old people, women and children, who were either put in "concentration camps" or expelled. On the hundreds kept in such camps small babies to old people of 90 were crowded together under atrocious conditions without sanitary facilities at the height of summertime, when temperatures reach over 40 o C. The worst such "concentration camps" were Voni, Marathovouno, Vitsada and Gypsou. In addition, Turkish authorities held some 3,000 inhabitants of the Kyrenia district in the Kyrenia Dome Hotel & in Bellapais village. Many male Greek Cypriots were temporarily sent as "prisoners of war" to places like Saray Prison & Pavlides Garage in the Turkish part of Nicosia, later being transported to Turkey and detained in prisons in Adana, Amasia and Atiama. It is notable that the great majority of those shipped to Turkey were civilians of all ages between 17 and 70. Article 49.1 of the Geneva Convention, 1949, Fourth Schedule, provides that: "individual or mass forcible transfers,as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not are prohibited, regardless of their motive." The transfer of civilians to Turkey show the contempt exhibited by the Turkish Army for the principles of international law. Turkey has never provided complete lists of detainees and the fate of about 3,000 Greek Cypriots was unknown at the time of the first applications to the Commission. Because evidence showed numbers of these missing persons had been in custody in Turkey the Commission was asked to investigate whether they were still imprisoned there.

Turkish defense:

No answer was given to these charges. Turkey boycotted the Commission's proceedings once her jurisdictional objection was rejected.

Commission's Verdict:

" Detention centers:

1. The Commission,by thirteen votes against one, concludes that, by the confinement of more than two thousand Greek Cypriots to detention centres established in schools and churches at Voni, Gypsou and Morphou, Turkey has violated Art.5(1) of the Convention.
2. The Commission by thirteen votes against one, further concludes that, by the confinement of Greek Cypriots to private houses in Gypsou and Morphou, where they kept under similar circumstances as in the detention centres, Turkey has equally violated Art.5(1).
3. The Commission, by ten votes against two with two abstentions, finally concludes that, by the CONFINEMENT of Greek Cypriots to the Kyrenia Dome Hotel after 14 August 1974, Turkey has again violated Art.5(1).

Prisoners and detainees:

1. The Commission, by thirteen votes against one, concludes that the detention of Greek Cypriot military personnel in Turkey was not in conformity with Art.5(1) of the Convention.

2. The Commission, by thirteen votes against one, concluded that the DETENTION of Greek Cypriot civilians IN Turkey was equally not in conformity with Art.5.(1)" (Report, p.164). Evidence on missing persons: The evidence before the Commission does not allow a definite finding with regard to the fate of Greek Cypriots declared to be missing. This is partly due to the fact that the Commission's Delegation was refused access to the northern/occupied/part of Cyprus and to places in Turkey where Greek Cypriot prisoners were or had been detained. In the present Report the Commission is only concerned with the fate of persons declared to be missing as from the beginning of the military action of Turkey on 20 July 1974. It is not concerned with any person missing due to the coup d'etat which on 15 July 1974 preceded the above action... It appears, however, from the evidence that: it is widely accepted that "a considerable number of Cypriots" are still " missing as a result of armed conflict in Cyprus" i.e. between Turkey and Cyprus; a number of persons declared to be missing have been identified as Greek Cypriots taken prisoner by the Turkish army. The Commission considers that there is a presumption of Turkish responsibility for the fate of persons shown to have been in Turkish custody. However,on the basis of the material before it, the Commission has been unable to ascertain whether, and under what circumstances, Greek Cypriot prisoners declared to be missing have been deprived of their life" (Report, paras. 347-349, and 351

 

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Originally posted by Seko

This is inappropriate behavior and unethical communication between members of this forum. Even if you feel strongly about your own arguement, do not provoke and diminish the value of this respected forum.

After reading all these colourful names from some posters here, including you, written about Iskenderani eg. blind, brainwashed, ignorant, delutional etc I would advice you back, not to use selective memory and also follow your own advise. But yes the general idea of your quote is of course right.   



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If you want to read the other 2 reports,be my guess it's in webpage 3 of this topic because i am really bored to say the same and the same things all the time.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 13:51
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Originally posted by Aeolus

Originally posted by aknc

When i looked into the subject more deeply i found out some horrific facts.

The English president fefuses Ecevit's offer to make sure the greeks are no harmed

The greek general Grevaz(can't spell it properly)attcks civilians while the Turks battle with terrorists

All of the Turks would have been killed if turkey had not interfered.Not even one of them left out.(how very just)

If you actually looked into the subject more deeply, you would find out horrific facts occured also by the horrific actions by your own people at that time. But this would be the case, if you werent the one-sided ultra pathetic hating person who came here to label ALL  the 1517 missing persons from the invasion of 1974 as sick murderers justifying this way their killings from your murdering thugs.

But since you like to be the one driven by his hate agenda towards Greek-Cypriots and you justify ALL the atrocities of your murdering thugs in Cyprus allow me to contribute.

Conveniently for your hate agenda, you avoided to mention the actions/killings of the terrorist group Turk Mukavemet Teskilati (TMT), founded by Denktash and supported by turkish government.

Its well known to everybody Denktash and in general TMTs strategy was to provoke inter-ethnic conflicts with the aim of securing the separation of the two communities.

But lets see what a turkish diplomat has to say about the first serious inter-communal fighting who took place in June 1958 and was the result of TMT actions

 Mr Emin Dirvana, a former Turkish diplomat, said: `I was informed that on 7 June 1958 a bomb had been planted in the Turkish press office in Nicosia by persons who, as was later established, had nothing to do with the Greek Cypriots. The Turks of Nicosia were then incited to be overwhelmed by holy indignation and perpetrated acts similar to those committed on 6 and 7 September 1995 in Istanbul.

In the ITN documentary `Cyprus, Britains Grim Legacy the account continues:

`The explosion sparked off a night of riot in Nicosia. Turkish Cypriots burned and looted Greek shops and homes. Soon came counter attacks and the fighting spread around the island. A friend of mine, whose name must still be kept secret, was to confess to me that he had put this little bomb in the doorway in order to create an atmosphere of tension so that people would know that the Turkish Cypriots mattered.
The riots in Nicosia caused by the bomb in the Turkish press office, resulted in the deaths of 56 Greek and 53 Turkish Cypriots.

The horrific actions by the terrorist group TMT in Cyprus are endless but i cant avoid not mentioning the murders also of Turkish-Cypriot citizens by your murdering thugs, the publicers Ayhan Hikmet and Ahmet Gurkhan in 1962.

Of course mentioning from your side all the atrocities commited as well by Turk Cypriots would harm your hating agenda plans. Continue being the hating prick which you already showed the people here you are. Its people with low level logic like you who always managed to justify the murders commited of their own side and condemn the other side for doing the exact same thing  and drove Cyprus into the situation it is now.

Let me ask; why do all your proofs contain the testamony of 1 man but not solid proofs??

Who said its only one man? You must have missed when Denktash, himself, admitted publicly in a Turkish newspaper that TMT was responsible for the bomb attack.

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What is European commission? Greece is a part of it but Turkey is out of it.

It is something saying like "you see Greek parliament took the decision that Turkey is wrong in Cyprus case".

Who cares?

Did Greece organize a coup d'etat in Cyprus in 1974? YES

Did Greece want to annex Cyprus after this event? YES

Did they kill Turkish civilians? YES

Did Greek Cypriot regime since 1963 systematically support terrorist attacks on Turks? YES

Did Turkey has the right to interven Cyprus as being one of the guarator state of Cyprus ? YES

Did Turkey make an operation to Cyprus? YES

Did Turkey save Turkish Cypriots? YES

Did Turkey look for a peaceful solution? YES

Did Turkey support United Nations' Annan Plan for unification? YES

So what???

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 14:00

Osmanli,

I havent got the time to reply to each of your sentences but i will reply quickly to this one.

# And yes i know about the TMT, but why did you fail to mention that the TMT was created in order to couinter the EOKA terrorists. And why do you not mention that whilst the EOKA had military weapons the TMT had to buy hunting rifles from the Greeks. #

Really? And how did the member of TMT achieved it? By blowing up the Turkish Embassy in 1957 and blaming it on Greek-Cypriots? By the full scale campaign of terror which they initiated against the people of Cyprus leading in intercommunal violence? Or by murdering except Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriot journalists, trade unionists and ofcourse ordinary Turkish Cypriots who didnt want to have anything to do with them????

And save it my friend about their weaponry. The uncovering of the "Deniz" case where Turks were attempting to deliver a shipment of arms to TMT in Cyprus speaks ALL by itself.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 14:04

1974 oncesine ASLA donus olamaz!


NE MUTLU TURKUM DiYENE!!!SUKRAN ANAVATAN TURKIYE'YE


SUKRAN SANLI ORDUMUZA


KIBRIS TURK'TU, TURK KALACAK

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Osmanli, please restrain yourself from posting in turkish if the other members doesn't speak/read turkish. We have a language forum to post in our national language.

To all, as previously informed you, this type of topics always bring bitter discussions and argumentations. I will bring to the attention of the rest of the mods this topic.

Regards
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 14:19

J_L you are totally right so i will translate it for everone else:

Never going back to 1974!

(Ne mutlu trkm diyene is sth like happiness to those that say i'm a turk)

Our glorious army

cyprus was turkish it'll stay turkish

(the translation of osmanli's post)



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