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    Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 03:09

I don't know if I am going to be censored by some moderator, or even expelled out of the site, but this is a topic that I must to attack: moche pornography.

The Moche culture is from Peru, during the 1 millenia A.D. The Moches created a wonderful culture that was, however, very bloody if compared others cultures of Peru. They also made large mud-bricks pyramids, superb handcrafts and jewerly and some of the most "shameful" collection of porn pottery that ever exist LOL.
 
First, some pictures of the non-part of the Moche culture:
 
Form the Lord of Sipan tumb
 
 
A reconstruction:
 
 
 
The huaca del Sol, a Moche mud brick piramid.
 
 
Standard moche portrait vessel:
 
 
Now, for the erotic Moche art, you can visit these links LOL. Only adults go, please:
 
This is from a serious museum in Peru:
 
 
And this is from a not so serious thread on the web
 
 
Or just search for "huaco erotico" and you will find many.
 
Or you believed I was to post the pictures in here? Wink
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Quote drgonzaga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 03:19
C'mon Pinguin is that sensibilidad catlica making you undergo guilt pangs? In the history of art and the artifacts of daily life such evidence is everywhere so as to underscore the essentially erotic nature of man.
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LOL
 
You bet! It is catholic brainwashing... Mom is old fashioned Catholic and believe her son is going to hell because I am agnostic... (Well Dad was Comunist) Big%20smile
 
Anyways, in the local museum of my city is a Moche erotic exhibition right now, and the add say literally: "underage kids should be accompanied by parents or tutors".... LOL
 
By the way, American tourists love the exhibit....
 
So, I didn't want to take the risk in this site. If you want more, just follow the links Wink
 
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  Quote drgonzaga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 04:21
An old fashioned catholic basically leaves the subject matter as a function of the conscience and confession. After all, some of the greatest erotic statuary in art can be found in Saint Peter's Basilica, inclusing Bernini's The Ecstacy of St. Teresa, and the Catholic King, bulwark against Turk and Protestant, Felipe II, had some rather kinky Bosch panels in his rather spartan bed chamber (think El Jardin de las Delicias).
By the way you may not necessarily end up in the Outer Darkness where there will be wailing and the gnashing of teeth just for being agnostic,--admittedly you are well on your wayErmm--but as with the day the world ends such speculations are frowned upon in proper Catholic theology! Usually, the people who believe their neighbors are going to hell will probably end up there first given the essentially uncharitable characteristic of such speculation.
 
Now, we do know that comunistas are a bad influence under all circumstances and much more pornographic than the sight of a penis or a vaginaBig%20smile


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  Quote Ragozy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 04:31

Ok... I guess I'm not crazy about calling it porn.

Ancient Sexual Art.
So. American Erotic Art     ... you know not so flashy.

The pieces are beautiful. I'm thinking this is an old culture ...and if that's the case...nice art work. What sort of tools do you think they used to get such great lines and detail?

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  Quote Maharbbal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 04:39
I've seen some antic art forms dealing with porn (from "adds" for hookers in Pompei to some tombs in Egypt and from the cathedrals' sculptures to Greek vases, both sharing a common interest human-beast sexual relationships) but I must say these moches were really dirty minds Gosh the skeleton in the process of putting its big cock in that woman's mouth is too trash to be true!
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  Quote jdalton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 08:08
Well it's not so strange. Indian temple carvings have been known to get a little... interesting... and the Ainu and Southeast Asian Hill Tribes carve giant phalluses out of wood... and a lot of Japanese woodblocks from the 17-1800s were quite obviously porn... I'm sure there are plenty of other examples, but for some reason this kind of thing doesn't usually make it into the art history books.
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  Quote edgewaters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 08:24
Even the stuffiest people in the world, the English, have ancient porn, like the Sheila-na-Gigs.
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  Quote drgonzaga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 14:44
Whoa, Nelly, we are getting slightly awry in applying modern conceptions of what constitutes pornography onto the past. After all a priapian skeleton is hardly an appeal to prurient interests. Art as symbolism of basic understandings is something entirely different than what is found in the darker corners of the WWW! Likewise, the attempt to transmit the use of animals in ancient art as examples of a propensity toward beastiology is as erroneous as classifying the Greeks as early proponents of NAMBLA cant!
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  Quote edgewaters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2007 at 06:07
Originally posted by drgonzaga

After all a priapian skeleton is hardly an appeal to prurient interests.


Neither is Landscape XX, but some people seem to think it's pornographic.
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Two-thirds of Mughal minitures were pornographic.
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  Quote Windemere Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2007 at 17:29
The Moche sculptures might also have been phallic or fertility symbols. These sorts of symbols are common in the old pagan religions throughout the world. They had a religious connotation, denoting renewal of the crops, changing of seasons, fertility of the soil as well as the procreation of domestic animals, and of humans too. Eroticism (porn) had a religious aspect to these people, it was part of their ongoing circle of life. I think that in a disguised, subtle way it perhaps continues to exist in modern religions and in modern culture, though nowadays we tend to separate religion and eroticism, which the old pagan religions didn't.
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  Quote garciaparra22 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Dec-2007 at 21:32
Originally posted by pinguin

I don't know if I am going to be censored by some moderator, or even expelled out of the site, but this is a topic that I must to attack: moche pornography.

The Moche culture is from Peru, during the 1 millenia A.D. The Moches created a wonderful culture that was, however, very bloody if compared others cultures of Peru. They also made large mud-bricks pyramids, superb handcrafts and jewerly and some of the most "shameful" collection of porn pottery that ever exist LOL.
 
First, some pictures of the non-part of the Moche culture:
 
Form the Lord of Sipan tumb
 
 
A reconstruction:
 
 
 
The huaca del Sol, a Moche mud brick piramid.
 
 
Standard moche portrait vessel:
 
 
Now, for the erotic Moche art, you can visit these links LOL. Only adults go, please:
 
This is from a serious museum in Peru:
 
 
And this is from a not so serious thread on the web
 
 
Or just search for "huaco erotico" and you will find many.
 
Or you believed I was to post the pictures in here? Wink
 
 
 
Thanks for sharing. I never knew about these type of ancient Peruvian art.
Some of the art work made me laugh.:} 
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You are welcome.
 
Besides the fun part, I invite you to discover other parts Moche culture, beyond frivolity.
 
Take a look to the Lord of Sipan museum in Peru. That's the older tomb of a ruler found in South America. Amazing.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by pinguin

You are welcome.
 
Besides the fun part, I invite you to discover other parts Moche culture, beyond frivolity.
 
Take a look to the Lord of Sipan museum in Peru. That's the older tomb of a ruler found in South America. Amazing.
 
 
 
 
Interesting.
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  Quote Gabachachida Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Dec-2007 at 00:51

ha ha ha! Well maybe their culture is just more sexually open.  Its interesting art to say the least, thanks for the info.

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I went to an exhibition about Moche erotic art in the Museum of Archaeological arts in Santiago. There were adds that say "children should be accompanied by theirs tutors".
 
Now, the people there was seeing the pieces with an scolastic attitude, like where studying them, but they feel sort of nervous, like guilty of seen them.
 
weird.
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ha ha ha kinda nervous and fidgety...
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  Quote bilal_ali_2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 19:20
          Oh man these pieces are rather disturbing. I was under the impression that distrubing pornography was mainly a modern invention,  i even remember reading somehwere that even French Kissing was alien to many cultures when the European brought it with them and some even thought that it was too disgusting but these figurines make French Kissing look like just a slight pat on the cheek.       
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Dec-2007 at 00:15

Yeap. Moches had a very wild imagination.

 
 
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