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Lord Ranulf
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Topic: JFK Assasination (Caution: Pictures May Be Disturbing) Posted: 22-Apr-2006 at 19:53 |
I personaly have little time for conspiracy stories in general altho thats not to say I won't give every 'dog his day in the kennel'....the stories have been written, edited, re-written and five gazillion takes on the Warren Commision and the available forensics.......mistakes-conjectures-omissions, mis-interpretations, aside for the moement....have been made.
I leave you with this note. I have personaly met one of the US military's greatest 'snipers'...the Late great Carlos Hathcock, Gunnery Sergeant, US Marine Corp, and to the paraphrase the 'gunnies' comments."i couldnt have made the shot with the weapon and the circumstances" ...and I believe the 'gunny'. Before I retired I personaly qualified as expert on numerous weapons to include the M21/22 and others and was a qualified O/C (observer-controller) and I know damn well I couldnt have done it...hence I'll buy this conspiracy story
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Posted: 21-Apr-2006 at 05:59 |
I'm not intending to attack you, but those pictures were too much graphic.[quote]
Well in fairness you were warned and you didn't actually have to look!
I used to be a bit sceptical but then I realised that Oswald couldn't possibly have shot Kennedy in the side of the head because he was positioned behind him. Plus the direction in which Kennedy's body went when he was was sideways as if the shot had come from his left. If he'd been hit from behind he would have gone foreward.
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Heraclius
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Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 15:57 |
I downloaded the footage from some website so I could decide for myself from what I could see how many shots hit Kennedy.
One funny thing about the JFK movie is that it was claimed Oswald couldnt of fired 3 shots from the rifle in 5.6 seconds, when a character in the movie demonstrates how Oswald would of fired the rifle he claims it cant be done. If you time him firing the shots though you can see that the actor actually performs the feat in exactly 5.6 seconds disproving the entire argument.
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Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 07:02 |
I've seen the video but I dont remember 'shots' ringing out, i only seen the 1 shot that that kills JFK.
If there as more than 1 shot, where they from the same gun?
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Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 03:06 |
Thanks to the movie "JFK" the conspiracy theorists have had a field day assuming everything in that movie is fact and that there clearly was a conspiracy, not only does the link i've provided seems to me to totally demolish the seemingly endless myths about the assassination, what happened before hand and afterwards. Although it is largely to do with the movie it points out many things that have been played on as fact when in reality there is no evidence to suggest there is any truth to it.
Great movie and fascinating theories, but show me some concrete evidence, because i've yet to see any that hasnt been totally discredited or can be made to say anything you want it to.
http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100menu.html
There are so many theories on this assassination as to make it impossible for any of them to have credibility, some people just can't accept the distinct possibility that perhaps, Lee Harvey Oswald did actually blow the presidents brains out or that Elvis really is dead or that Aliens didnt land at Roswell or any other totally baseless theories that look good on paper, but often have absolutely no depth whatsoever.
Conspiracy theories are my pet-hate as you can tell probably because i'm tired of hearing about how Jews supposedly rule the world or how any number of secret societies are brainwashing us in an attempt for world domination. Its very difficult to take anything conspiracy theorists say seriously, because largely of the sheere lack of evidence.
To show the depth of some peoples insanity the sheer lack of evidence is often passed off as proof that there was a conspiracy
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Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 19:55 |
Originally posted by Tobodai
I made an entire project for my US history class about why the conspiracies cannot be correct and how Lee Harvey Oswald alone did in fact kill JFK. And that is what I believe.
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I am not going to offend you and I respect your law to have your own view, nevertheless in my opinion if you really believe in the official version of JFK's assassination, you are naive. Well, there's so much evidence that the real aim of Warren's Commission was to manipulate people, to lie them and to distort the facts. For me it's obvious and evident that Lee Harvey Oswald was not the mad guy but just the scapegoat.
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Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 19:52 |
I did not even take a look.
My good friend H. did a project on Kennedy assasination too, when we were in our good old grade 10 American history class. According to the videos and books I have seen, the conspiracy theory stands. Kennedy was in fact shot from a manhole right next to his car - an expert examined what areas of the brain were blown off, and eventually found out through mathmatical calculations that the angle of the bullet meant that it flew from the ground up - hence from the gun of a man-hole sniper.
The video was called The Men Who Killed Kennedy: The Truth Shall Make You Free. I watched it then gave it to H.
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Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 06:12 |
owwww the photos.....
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Posted: 03-Sep-2004 at 03:20 |
Okay okay Khakhan changed it, I was thinking about doing that. Can we just focus on the subject?I want to know your opinions
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 22:03 |
Gallipoli, I had to change the pics to a link because I think it's too graphic for this forum.
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That's a good idea, there could be children researching something........although we do have other topics I don't think they should see.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 20:18 |
Originally posted by demon
But have you seen the documentary of Nostradamus and his prediction of JFK assasination? |
OMG DOnt make this any dumber than it already is. No offence, but a long dead french sage who makes vague predictions that could be interpreted any way isnt my idea of proof or even the existence of evidence.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 19:19 |
Galli:
I'm not intending to attack you, but those pictures were too much graphic.
A merely description of JFK assasination would be enough.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 19:10 |
Garrison's entire case was based on the belief that Clay Shaw, using the alias "Clay Bertrand" conspired to kill Kennedy. Where did the name "Clay Bertrand" come from? From an eccentric, rather sleazy New Orleans lawyer named Dean Andrews.
Lou Ivon: No "Clay Bertrand"
Like the FBI in 1963, Garrison's researchers combed the French Quarter for "Clay Bertrand," the man Dean Andrews said had called him on the day after the assassination and suggested that Andrews go to Dallas to legally represent Oswald. What was the result? The following memo was written by Garrison's chief investigator, Lou Ivon.
M E M O R A N D U M
February 25, 1967
TO: JIM GARRISON
FROM: LOUIS IVON
RE: CLAY BERTRAND
To ascertain the location of one CLAY BERTRAND, I put out numerous inquiries and made contact with several sources in the French Quarter area. From the information we have obtained concerning this subject, I'm almost positive from my contacts that they would have known or heard of a CLAY BERTRAND. The information I received was negative results.
On February 22, 1967, I was approached by "BUBBIE" PETTINGILL in the Fountainbleu Motor Hotel, located on Tulane Avenue, whom I had earlier contacted about CLAY BERTRAND. He stated that DEAN ANDREWS admitted to him that CLAY BERTRAND never existed.
Ivon was not the only Garrison staffer to reach this conclusion. Assistant DA Andrew "Moo-Moo" Sciambra was given the task of "squeezing" the French Quarter to get information from homosexual informants. He admitted to author Edward Jay Epstein that he failed to find any "Bertrand." See Epstein's The Assassination Chronicles (New York, 1992), p. 196.
And I agree, this is no place for autopsy photos.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 17:40 |
Gallipoli, I had to change the pics to a link because I think it's too graphic for this forum.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 17:06 |
But have you seen the documentary of Nostradamus and his prediction of JFK assasination?
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 16:15 |
conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assasination...BS
I made an entire project for my US history class about why the conspiracies cannot be correct and how Lee Harvey Oswalrd alone did in fact kill JFK. And that is what I believe.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 15:27 |
Don't you like the Dead Kennedys ?
Ta da dum, tssss...
Sorry, bad pun.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 15:15 |
please, those pictures are horrible and have nothing to do with history, you can easily tell that from the name of the HP.
besides, there's also no reason to direct-link the pics at all...
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 14:59 |
Celebretymorgue.com, well i suppose someone had to make that site.
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