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Topic: Eva Pern aka Evita Posted: 10-Mar-2007 at 03:15 |
Eva Pern died at the age of 33, at the peak of her popularity, her myth continues to remain intact, burning most brightly among poor people, who can be seen placing flowers each Sunday in Recoletaandon, on her tomb to this day. She remains one of the most important symbols in ALL history.
But im sorta confused as to why she is never brought up in conversations about "historicly powerful women". Especially since she is considered to be the most powerful, and most influentual woman in South America's history.
What are your thoughts and opinions about her?
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Posted: 13-Mar-2007 at 13:38 |
Originally posted by Penelope
Eva Pern died at the age of 33, at the peak of her popularity, her myth continues to remainintact,burning most brightly among poor people, who can be seen placing flowers each Sunday in Recoletaandon, on her tomb to this day. She remains one of the most important symbols in ALL history.
But im sorta confused as to why she is never brought up in conversations about "historicly powerful women". Especially since she is considered to be the most powerful, and most influentual womanin South America's history.
What are your thoughts and opinions about her? |
Thank you Penelope, and welcome to the women's history forum at AE. This is a very interesting and, perhaps, one of the most powerful woman of our time. She went from being a poverty stricken illegitimate child to the First Lady of Argentina and vice-president of Argentina. Thats quite an achievement for any woman (especially at such a young age). She was loved by the poor people for her contributions in building homes, hospitals, schools and giving jobs to thousands of Argentineans. She gave women in Argentina the right to vote and organized the Eva Peron Foundation and the Peronista Feminist Party. However, the upper class despised her, saying she slept her way to the top (in retaliation, Evita cut their funding). She was not very popular with many outsiders as well. While she was in Europe, the pope denied her a title. British royalty publicly refused to admit her entrance to Buckingham Palace. Even in the U.S. she was insulted when Time magazine revealed that she was illegitimate - the magazine was banned in Argentina for four months.
When Argentinas army threatened to revolt (they were not happy that a woman had so much power [as vice president] and was so popular with the people), Juan Peron told her to step down. She died of uterine cancer at 33 years of age. Had she lived, maybe she could have become President of Argentina...but, we will never know that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Per%C3%B3n
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Posted: 13-Mar-2007 at 23:32 |
Morticia, thankyou very much. And yes, had she lived, she would have become the World's First Female President. Pern's third wife, Isabel Pern, actually became president in her place.
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Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 16:36 |
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Morticia, thankyou very much. And yes, had she lived, she would havebecomethe World's First Female President. Pern's third wife, Isabel Pern, actually became president in her place. |
It seems as though the Argentinean people wanted anyone but JUAN PERON to be President!
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Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 18:32 |
Considering the machista stereotype of Latin America, it is rather surprising to see that so many Latin American countries had a female president. Not only Isabel Pern in Argentina, but also Lidia Gueiler in Bolivia, Mireya Moscoso in Panama, Violeta Barrios in Nicaragua and now also Michele Bachelet in Chile.
It is however also noteworthy that most of them (Pern, Moscoso, Barrios) were wives of important (male) politicians.
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Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 18:44 |
Yes, the "macho" stereotype is one of the funniest things for insiders. Everyone knows in Latin America who is the boss at home .
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Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 02:51 |
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Originally posted by Penelope
Morticia, thankyou very much. And yes, had she lived, she would have become the World's First Female President. Pern's third wife, Isabel Pern, actually became president in her place. |
It seems as though the Argentinean people wanted anyone but JUAN PERON to be President! |
I agree, in fact, i dont think Juan would have won the presidency, had not it been for Evita, and her popularity. She invented "Pernism".
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Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 15:38 |
Originally posted by Mixcoatl
Considering the machista stereotype of Latin America, it is rather surprising to see that so many Latin American countries had a female president. Not only Isabel Pern in Argentina, but also Lidia Gueiler in Bolivia, Mireya Moscoso in Panama, Violeta Barrios in Nicaragua and now also Michele Bachelet in Chile.It is however also noteworthy that most of them (Pern, Moscoso, Barrios) were wives of important (male) politicians.
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Right, Mixcoatl. Also noteworthy is how these women were very much admired by the people and yet those same people despised their husbands. Enough said about "machos"!
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Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 15:39 |
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Yes, the "macho" stereotype is one of the funniest things for insiders. Everyone knows in Latin America who is the boss at home .
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That's right, Pinguin! The "macho" man is the boss!
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Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 02:42 |
Yea in many latin societies, women are very much respected. A lot of women deserve the utmost respect though.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 08:57 |
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...That's right, Pinguin! The "macho" man is the boss! |
Well, that's just a matter of public relations. I am not talking about sick people in here but just normal couples. In these case it is usual man "pretends" to be the boss in public, but woman have the control in private .
Latino men are usually just grown up children , overprotected by mom, controlled (and sometimes protected) by the wife and cared by the dauther in later years. Besides, many pray to Virgin Mary for celestial protection as well
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Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 01:47 |
Originally posted by pinguin
Originally posted by morticia
...That's right, Pinguin! The "macho" man is the boss! |
Well, that's just a matter of public relations. I am not talking about sick people in here but just normal couples. In these case it is usual man "pretends" to be the boss in public, but woman have the control in private .
Latino men are usually just grown up children , overprotected by mom, controlled (and sometimes protected) by the wife and cared by the dauther in later years. Besides, many pray to Virgin Mary for celestial protection as well
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Posted: 19-Mar-2007 at 13:28 |
Originally posted by pinguin
Originally posted by morticia
...That's right, Pinguin! The "macho" man is the boss! |
Well, that's just a matter of public relations. I am not talking about sick people in here but just normal couples. In these case it is usual man "pretends" to be the boss in public, but woman have the control in private .
Latino men are usually just grown up children , overprotected by mom, controlled (and sometimes protected) by the wife and cared by the dauther in later years. Besides, many pray to Virgin Mary for celestial protection as well
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That is very true, Pinguin! Latino men are raised by overprotective mothers who don't teach their males any type of domesticity (i.e. to clean house, to iron, to do laundry, to cook, etcetera). The mother does everything for them....so, naturally, when they become adults, they expect the same from all other women. That's when they get a dose of REALITY! However, I have learned that latino women like to assume the position of housemaker and caregiver because, deep down, she really rules him!
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Posted: 19-Mar-2007 at 21:44 |
Yes, I am afraid Latino women is the boss at home .... I am married with one .
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