Originally posted by Al Jassas
In Sudan Arabs are the members of any of the several great Arab tribes
that live there. If I am not mistaken there is some 20% of Sudans
population who belong to these tribes. Arab tribes give tribal status
only to those who have a confirmed descendence from Arab stock, that is
both parents. If one has a black mother, like the Janjaweeds, they are
not considered Arab but are allowed to have Arab tribal names.
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Yes but most Sudanese whether Northern Or Southern do not have Arab descendancy at all,they just have adapted the Arab indentity due to the Language and Religion just as the Fulani in iN Nigeria have.
Originally posted by Al Jassas
Somalia is not Arab. There is nothing to link it with Yemen or any
other Arab country or even Arab tribes. Arab tribes never settled in
Somalia but some somali clans did settle in certain parts of the cost
of Arabia, around the City of Jizan in Saudi Arabia. |
Actually Somali has been part of the Sabean empire at one point ,I do believe the Axum Empire has conquered a part of Arabia Happy at one point too, but that more releates to Yemen,but they should share some lineage at some point in time .Not to mention their language is Afro Asiatic.
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
North Sudanese and southern Egyptians are both Arab and Nubian. Their
language is considered a dialect of Arabic and their ethnicity Nubian.
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They are very few black Egyptians in Southern Egypt today.But most Northen Sudanese are Negroid.What people don't understand is that the Kush Empire lasted for 3 Millenia if not longer. Now first it is widely accepted that Egypt took control of Kush in 1520 bc so we know there is already an established kingdom,even before Kush from before there was a kingdom called Kerma. Any how despite the records of Egypt conquering Kush in the 1500 bc people say its established 1070,now the supposed fall of Kush is in 350 ad,historians say it ceased in 350 AD because the lack of monuments and construction building but never actually hearing of an Kandake or Alara(Gore) being deposed. In fact we here of the Axum King presding over Kush as an overlord but it is said this was already in place befroe 350 ad.
Now historains say that the Gods of Meroe were still prominet in the NUBIA REGION. When Theodora arrived in 5th century to spread christianity the 3 Kush Kingdoms Nobatia,Maukaria,and Alodia adopted the faith.The Meriotic culture was still prominent because the still spoke the Meriotic language and script,the church even blessed the kingdoms monarachs which kept sacred the Matrenial lineage of the Royal lines.The Maukaria Kingdom which once held the city Meroe was reluctant to accept the Christianity but they eventually adopted Chirstianity in another form called the Melechite christianity.Its ironic that these kingdoms ran parallel to Ancient Nubia because these 3 regions both competed for power.
Now in the 6th century ad the once mighty military kingdom of Nobotae were invaded by arab muslims. They signed a treaty known as the baqt in which muslim mauraders could use the Nothern part of Sudan for trade and the south remianed independent.However during this time the northern population became islamized.Alot of christians moved southward in the 16th century and eventually made a defense called shakydoms. They eventually collapsed in the 18thcentury ad by the Turks.
But we know that the christian kingdoms were alligned to the Axumites due to the same religious faith,the Ethiopian Empire once presided over eastern Sudan at one point and time.But however we could say that Kush lasted a very longtime.Just as Rome adopted christianity in 380 ad. Kush threw away its pantheon of Nilothic Gods.
Edited by AksumVanguard - 23-Feb-2009 at 01:15