Jewelry
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Topic: Jewelry
Posted By: Mila
Subject: Jewelry
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 17:53
JEWELRY
Share
some pictures and information about the traditional and popular jewelry
in your country - not commercial jewelry, but the kind small shops
make, the kind you can't really find in the same way anywhere else. For
example, the little shops in Latin America that can make literally any
style of jewelry you want in 15 or 20 minutes.
Bosnia and Herzegovina has a long tradition of goldsmiths, as well as
silver and coppersmiths, dating back several hundred years. Most of the
families that today produce jewelry are the same families who did so
when the Bascarsija was first founded as a trading post and market
between West and East.
Traditionally the most popular types of jewelry for women were
earrings, necklaces, and rings. Women received them at birth and got
more for every major event in their lives. The most popular designs
were specifically Bosnian or specifically Islamic, for example:
The crescent and star:
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Or the Bosnian lily design:
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These days more generic patterns have become very popular, most of them
still reflected by traditional Bosnian jewelry. They include the "fog"
design, which is made to resemble rain drops:
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And the geometric designs that were popular among Bosnia's Islamic aristocracy:
http://www.slibe.com">
All of these designs can be purchased in Bascarsija for fairly cheap
prices, by international standards. For an extra fee you can buy a set
blessed by a Muslim Imam, a Roman Catholic Priest, a Jewish Rabbi, and
an Orthodox Christian Priest.
It is a very important ritual in Bosnian culture when a woman gets
engaged or is getting a ring for any other reason to go with her suitor
and her friends for fittings and that sort of thing. Choosing which
precious stones will be in the ring and what pattern the gold will be
shaped into is always a big deal. Family traditions also play a role.
For example, I typically wear only silver because that's what my mother
wore, and my grandmother, and my great-grandmother, and so on. It's a
symbol that demonstrates my family was not upper-class, but they
certainly weren't peasants either and these sorts of things people hold
onto.
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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 18:20
royal Jewels of IRan
forum_posts.asp?TID=9162&KW=royal - http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9162& ;KW=royal
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Posted By: o_irengun
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 18:24
every piece of valuable stone or valuable metall in hands of an armenian Jeweller Master.The armenians are the Kings of jeweller haandwork.Excuse me my turkish friends
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 06:43
work by southwest Native American artisans
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 19:16
jewelry by Micheal and Susan Cabnet, Haddonfield NJ
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Posted By: Artaxiad
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2006 at 20:05
every piece of valuable stone or valuable metall in hands of an armenian Jeweller Master.The armenians are the Kings of jeweller haandwork.Excuse me my turkish friends |
Heh My father's a jeweller.
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 19:03
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 19:12
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 19:14
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 19:17
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 19:22
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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 19:29
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 10:45
All but one or two of the above posts are of traditional southwest native American design, produced by contemporary artists and mainly on an individual item by item basis.
The groups represented here are Navajo, Hopi, Zuni and several pueblo artists.
Most items shown are of the "high end" and high quality variety. Value and price are usually determined by quality of craftsmanship and quality and clarity of the turquoise and other stones used.
Turquoise comes from several areas in the southwest and source can be determined by the color, blue-Arizona, green-Nevada etc.
A good Squash blossom necklace can sell for as much as 15,000 us, with some of the "antique" examples going at auction houses like Christy's for enormous sums.
The next series of photos will be of the lower end in price and mostly come from "production benches". Still handcrafted, but not as creative and using Pre-manufactured components.
Thanx in advance for patience. I'm doing this between heavy doses of real life to keep from losing my marbles.
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Posted By: merced12
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 11:19
Originally posted by o_irengun
every piece of valuable stone or valuable metall in hands of an armenian Jeweller Master.The armenians are the Kings of jeweller haandwork.Excuse me my turkish friends |
dont forget assyrians
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16th century world;
Ottomans all Roman orients
Safavids in Persia
Babur in india
`azerbaycan bayragini karabagdan asacagim``
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 11:44
Originally posted by merced12
Originally posted by o_irengun
every piece of valuable stone or valuable metall in hands of an armenian Jeweller Master.The armenians are the Kings of jeweller haandwork.Excuse me my turkish friends |
dont forget assyrians
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Don't talk- Show us!
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Posted By: merced12
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 11:54
ok red clay
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16th century world;
Ottomans all Roman orients
Safavids in Persia
Babur in india
`azerbaycan bayragini karabagdan asacagim``
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Posted By: merced12
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:00
red clay
http://www.goldas.com/English/index.asp - http://www.goldas.com/English/index.asp
http://www.midas.com.tr/ - http://www.midas.com.tr/
http://www.atasay.com/index.html - http://www.atasay.com/index.html
http://www.goldas.com/English/index.asp -
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16th century world;
Ottomans all Roman orients
Safavids in Persia
Babur in india
`azerbaycan bayragini karabagdan asacagim``
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:05
Thats nice work. Is it done by individual artists or a production studio?   ;
A production studio is not "a factory" It's usually a small private workshop where several skilled craftsmen work under an experienced and highly skilled artist/designer.
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Posted By: merced12
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:13
in turkey generally have small private workshops but dilan,goldas,atasay are very big company.
------------- http://www.turks.org.uk/ - http://www.turks.org.uk/
16th century world;
Ottomans all Roman orients
Safavids in Persia
Babur in india
`azerbaycan bayragini karabagdan asacagim``
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:13
Turquoise is a robin’s egg blue gemstone that is probably one of the oldest gemstones known. Its prized blue color is so distinctive that its name is used to describe any color that resembles it. Turquoise gets its color from the heavy metals in the ground where it forms. Chemically, turquoise is a hydrated phosphate of copper and aluminum and is formed by the percolation of meteoric or groundwater through aluminous rock in the presence of copper.
Turquoise is most often found in arid, semiarid or desert places such as Iran, Tibet, China, Australia, Mexico, Russia, Turkey, and in Southwest U.S. Blue turquoise forms when there is copper present which is the case with most Arizona turquoise. Green turquoise forms where iron is present, the case with most Nevada turquoise. Matrix is the host rock or the mother rock that can be made from several different elements such as pyrite, chert (an extremely dense type of quartz), quartz, cuperite (a copper oxide mineral with as much as 88% copper), and manganese oxide. Some turquoise such as spider web turquoise is made up of small nuggets naturally cemented together with rock or matrix, and when cut and polished, the stone resembles a spider web. Turquoise has been used extensively by both Southwestern U.S. Native Americans and by many of the Indian tribes in Mexico. Before 1880, the Native Americans had made solid turquoise beads, carvings, and inlaid mosaics. The Native American Jewelry or “Indian style” jewelry with turquoise mounted in or with silver is relatively new.
In the 1880’s and early 1900’s, miners discovered significant deposits of high-quality turquoise in the western and southwestern United States that was just as fine as those of the finest Persian turquoise found in Persia, which for thousands of years, was the finest intense blue turquoise in the world. Today, the majority of the world’s finest-quality turquoise comes from the United State. The U.S. is now the largest producer of turquoise. Turquoise and sterling silver metal is shaped into jewelry pieces by Native American Indian tribes of the southwest U.S. including Navajo from Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, Hopi from northern Arizona and Zuni from western New Mexico, and also by outside contractors.
Turquoise jewelry has been largely accepted in recent years and has resulted in higher price, therefore, because of the higher price of turquoise and the increase in demand, an industry emerged with the manufacture of synthetic and simulated turquoise. Its creation, with the use of earthy or highly porous types of turquoise, is pressure-impregnated with hot acrylic resins that improves the color, hardness, and durability of the inexpensive porous, poorly colored or nearly colorless materials to make them suitable for jewelry use. For nature to create minerals with one vein of turquoise, this is rare and is an improbable product of an incalculable number of chemical and physical processes that must take place in the right combination and proper environment over a time span of hundreds to millions of years.
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:18
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:22
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:31
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:36
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 12:45
The items in the last 4 posts are all handcrafted, but done in a production studio vs an individual artist/craftsman. Values run from 15.99 to 60.00 us.
Most of the turquoise is either man made or "enhanced".
I have tried to spare everyone the experience of " Navajo Jewelry from the Southwest". Translation- made by Ziggie Navaho from Southwest Philly. YO! Y'all.
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Posted By: Mila
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 00:40
You really made this thread worthwhile, Red Clay! Thanks. The jewelry is beautiful.
I love turquoise. It's my favorite color and I do have a few turquoise pieces of jewelry - one of which is real.
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 18:43
your welcome, that was fun. I took two years of jewelry smithing in college, no I am not skilled and haven't worked at it since, but I do know a little about it.
I haven't taken a serious look at what's being done in years. I was hoping we would have kicked up a little more interest and input from others. I know there is some fine work done in Sweden, finland just for example, I would have liked to have seen some examples.
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 23:03
Ancient Thracian earrings - 2500 years old
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 24-Mar-2012 at 21:48
From Thessalonica mint, found on a Thracian battlefield - Late Roman jewelry, 304-306 AD
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 25-Mar-2012 at 19:55
Ancient Thracian jewelry
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2012 at 21:45
Ancient Thracian jewelry - an earring:
"...A 2,200-year-old set of gold jewelry was unearthed from a Thracian
burial mound on Bulgaria's Black Sea coast, the archaeologist who led
the excavations said on Monday. Daniela Agre said her team in late
August found dozens of tiny jewelry pieces in the tomb of a woman, most
likely a Thracian priestess, near the resort of Sinemorets, about 500
kilometers (310 miles) southeast of the capital, Sofia.
The discovery included two earrings, crafted like miniature
chariots, as well as parts of gold necklaces, one decorated with a
sculpture of a bull's head. A tiny plaque that appears to be the
necklace's fastener bears a Greek inscription, saying, "Made by
Demetrius," Agre said, suggesting this could have been the name the
nobleman who ordered the jewelry...." http://www.cultural-tours-bulgaria.com/cultural-tours-bulgaria-thracian-tomb-sinemoretz.htm - http://www.cultural-tours-bulgaria.com/cultural-tours-bulgaria-thracian-tomb-sinemoretz.htm
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