Old vs Modern Architecture.
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Topic: Old vs Modern Architecture.
Posted By: Hellios
Subject: Old vs Modern Architecture.
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 10:11
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Do you prefer old or modern architecture?
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Posted By: Aelfgifu
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 10:27
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I voted for old, as on average I like historical buildings better than new ones. I must admit there are exeptions, there are also really nice modern buildings, but problem is that most modern buildings are just plain ugly... ------------- 
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 10:54
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Organic building:
 Tree home:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 11:41
I like old architecture. Of the "modern" architects there are just a few that I like and one that I love: Gaudi:
   Pinguin
Pinguin
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Posted By: Menumorut
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 11:51
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New architecture is terrible.
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 12:45
I agree with you Menumorut, but it's not "new architecture" that we should blame; it's the businesspeople who control & decide how much to spend on new buildings. If you think about it; with modern technologies, architects can do anything old architects could, plus a lot more.
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Posted By: Menumorut
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 13:37
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Unfortunately, new architects are the same ambitioned to get remarqued as businesspeople. A more humble architecture will not promote them, so they prefer to impress their public with their artifices but the buildings remain and the cities are so sad.
And I think it's to big Construction industry. I read that only in France each year 300.000 (three hundred thousands) neew buildings are made. In such rythm, the Earth surface will be more and more covered with buildings, the nature will be affected. ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 14:04
In my country we call "shoe boxes" those ugly standarized appartment buildings like these:
 Pinguin
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Posted By: Preobrazhenskoe
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 15:25
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In regards to the organic building, I've heard that it's a growing trend (if not already a city ordinance) in the city of Chicago to place lush vegitation and greenery on the tops of all the buildings not just for aesthetic purposes alone.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 15:56
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Well, organic buildings are very ancient indeed.
Remember the hunging garderns of Babilonia
 It is a great idea indeed! I vote for it.
Pinguin
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 16:26
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Posted By: Adalwolf
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 16:49
| I prefer old style architecture over modern. |
Posted By: Menumorut
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 20:04
That is yet beautiful comparing to what are in Romania's cities. Regarding "organic architecture", I dislike it. It's a modern and ESTHETICAL concept, not linked with the ancient, healthy concepts of mixing nature with human habitat. It's something new age which not follow human life improving but some kind of ideological system. ------------- |
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2006 at 15:36
Me too!
 This is my fav modern building, under construction in Isfahan:
 A four-storey building!
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 02:54
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Cyrus, that building is quite something. Do you have a rendering of how it will look when finished?
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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 09:05
No unfortunately!  -------------
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 10:22
Have you seen this?
http://www.etereaestudios.com/docs_html/isfahan_htm/isfahan_index.htm - http://www.etereaestudios.com/docs_html/isfahan_htm/isfahan_index.htm
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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 10:41
Yes!
 Shah Mosque
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 12:49
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Yeah, awesome!
Some of my favorite Iranian architecture:
A bridge in Isfahan:
 Fariborz Sahba's Lotus Temple (in India):
 Iranian mosque ceiling (unknown city):
 Ali Qapu Palace in Isfahan:
 Ganj Ali Khan tea house in Kerman:
 The music room of Ali Qapu Palace:
 Arched ceiling in Shiraz:
 From the site of Persepolis:
 Chaykhaneh-é Vakil tea house Kerman:
 Tiled archway (Cyrus which city is this in?):
 Mausoleum of Shah-e-Cheragh:
 From a Zoroastrian fire temple:
 From the Shah Cheragh Shrine:
 Chehel Sotun Palace entrance:
 Southern Iranian building with badgirs (wind-catchers) for cooling:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 13:36
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The Golestan Palace belongs to a group of royal buildings that were once enclosed within the walls of Tehran’s Historic Arg (citadel).
The Arg was built during the reign of Tahmasb I of the Safavid dynasty and was later renovated by Karim Khan Zand.
During the Pahlavi era Golestan Palace was used for formal royal receptions such as the coronation of Reza Khan and the coronation of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.
Golestan Palace is the result of roughly 400 years construction and renovations.
        Source: http://www.golestanpalace.ir/ - http://www.golestanpalace.ir/
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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 14:00
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Thanks for pics! additional info and corrections A bridge in Isfahan: Siosepol/Alhaverdikhan Bridge Ganj Ali Khan tea house in Kerman: in Kerman but Vakil Bath/Restaurant Arched ceiling in Shiraz: Nasir-al-molk Mosque From the site of Persepolis: near Persepolis Naqsh-e-Rostam Tiled archway (Cyrus which city is this in?): this is also Nasir-al-molk Mosque in Shiraz, full of beautiful colors and lights! 
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 17:14
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I wanted to check out some Iranian civic architecture so I found this stuff but I'm not sure if these are good examples...
Apartment building in Tehran:
 Apartment complex in Tehran:
 The Tehran International Trade and Convention Center and Milad Tower is under construction and 95% completed. The project includes a telecommunication tower offering restaurants at the top with spectacular views of Tehran, a five-star hotel, a convention center, a world trade center, and an IT park:
 http://www.yadman.ir/ - http://www.yadman.ir/
Office towers in Tehran:
 Haft-e Tir Bridge? in Tehran:
 In a Tehran subway station (nice stars on the floor and what does the mural say?):
 A residential building in Elahieh (I love this building!):
 Azadi stadium:
 Interior of a Tehran residence:
 At Sa'adabaad Palace in Tehran:
 Interesting building in Tehran:
 Hafezieh Cultural Center in Tehran:
 A private residence in Tehran:
 "The Flower of the East" (under construction since 2004) is basically is a whole city district of super-luxurious hotels, condominiums, restaurants, beaches, shopping malls and fancy boutiques:
http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t8418.html - http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t8418.html
http://www.floweroftheeast.de/ - http://www.floweroftheeast.de/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_The_East_Hotel - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_The_East_Hotel
Any actual construction pics on this and the Trade/Convention Center projects would be appreciated. ------------- |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 21:56
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Please give me your opinion on this...
The Beehive, warehouse/office building, Culver City, California:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 23:25
A funny office building in Toronto:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 00:39
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Some more interesting modern architecture...
1. Restaurant in Los Angeles:
 2. Office building in Amsterdam:
 3. Office building in London:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 10:36
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The Chapel of Reconciliation (in Germany) is a rammed earth building. The rammed earth is made using clay mixed with ground up remains of the former church:
 There are about 30,000 rammed earth buildings (dating mostly from the Ming and Qing dynasties) in Fujian Province, China:
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Posted By: Lmprs
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 11:05
Nice pics.  ------------- |
Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 13:40
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Nice Topic, i like both really, but not all of old is gold and not all that is new is square.
Sydney opera House. Fantastic. So is Taj mahal
"Interesting building in Tehran:"-I find disgusting.
There should be another option for both. ------------- |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 16:55
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Some examples of Chinese modern architecture, if anybody wants to discuss...
New bridges in China...
1. Donghai Bridge (32 km):
  2. Hangzhou Bay Bridge (36km):
   Completion renderings:
  3. Runyang Bridge:
 4. Danshan Bridge:
 5. Humen Bridge:
 6. Jiangyin Bridge:
   7. Junshan Bridge:
 8. Nanjin No. 2 Yangtze River Bridge:
 9. Tongling Bridge:
 10. Baishazhou Wuhan Yangtze Bridge:
 11. Haikou Bridge:
 12. Shantou Bay Bridge:
 13. Macau Xizhou Bridge:
 14. Haicang Bridge:
 15. Nanjing Changjiang Bridge III:
  16. Lhasa Liuwu Bridge:
 Completion rendering:
 17. Changsha Liuyanhe Bridge (rather unusual):
 18. Lhasa River Bridge:
  19. Changsha Heishipu Bridge:
 Completion rendering:
 20. Chongqing Wushan Yangtse River Bridge:
  21. Lupu Bridge (my favorite!):
   22. Yangpu Bridge:
 23. Nanpu Bridge:
 24. Zhengzhou Yellow River Bridge II:
   25. Wuhu Yangtse River Bridge:
  26. Su-Tong Bridge:
  Completion rendering:
 27. Taoyaomen Bridge:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 17:48
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The Chinese are excellent bridge builders since a very long time. China has countless big rivers.
The Dong built beautiful bridges using wood rivets (no nails):
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Posted By: Preobrazhenskoe
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 19:09
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My God, so many good pictures. Hellios, you've really outdone yourself in this thread...this is awesome!
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 22:28
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Eric, these 2 will be amazing also...
1. Wuhan Tianxinzhou Bridge:
 Completion rendering:
  2. Wuhan Yanluo Bridge:
  Completion rendering:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 23:09
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Japanese modern architecture...
SNC, Japan:
 Kobe Int'l:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2006 at 09:41
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I'm game if anybody wants to discuss these architectural works...
Bridge-turned-apartments? Florence, Italy:
 Amber Palace, India:
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2006 at 11:39
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I just have to post these pics from the Palatina Chapel in Sicily because I can't get over the sheer splendor. Has anybody here been to this building?
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/27.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/27.JPG
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/21.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/21.JPG
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/12.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/12.JPG
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/18.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/18.JPG
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/20.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid3/new/presentations/architecture/sicily/palermo/capella_palatina/altar.ambo/20.JPG
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2006 at 21:47
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Cyrus, have you seen this?
Quote: New Fire Temple in Kerman.
  Source: http://www.vohuman.org/ - http://www.vohuman.org/
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Posted By: Preobrazhenskoe
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2006 at 23:05
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The Palatina Chapel pics are beautiful, Hellios.
Here's the Cathedral of Ravenna, Italy.
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 03-Nov-2006 at 00:09
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Wow, thanks Eric.
The exterior facade is very nice and the interior artwork is fabulous.
Preo, does your state or city have a particular architectural style?
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Posted By: Preobrazhenskoe
Date Posted: 03-Nov-2006 at 02:29
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I live presently in Fairfax County, Virginia, (home to the Pentagon and right across the river from Washington D.C.) where the norm is neo-colonial style architecture. Fairfax City sports a town hall and other governmental/public facilities styled in 18th century colonial influenced elements of architecture. I was born in Martinez, California (outside the cities of Oakland and San Jose), where more often than not architectural styles are whacky-new-wave models of architecture as well as traditional Spanish/Mexican style villa homes. An example of colonial-style houses in Fairfax County:
      Fairfax City below:
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Posted By: Qin Dynasty
Date Posted: 03-Nov-2006 at 06:54
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