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Proposed name for non-Dardic Indo-Aryan languages

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Topic: Proposed name for non-Dardic Indo-Aryan languages
Posted By: PakistaniShield
Subject: Proposed name for non-Dardic Indo-Aryan languages
Date Posted: 02-May-2019 at 21:16
There is a clear consensus that non-Sanskrit based Indo-Aryan languages that are siblings to Sanskrit are their own subbranch within Indo-Aryan. These are known as the Dardic languages.

But this leaves Sanskrit based languages with no name. Since they descend from Vedic Sanskrit, should an appropriate term for them be Vedic languages? Languages such as Sindhi, Punjabi, Nepali, Hindustani etc.

What are peoples thoughts on this?

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Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 03-May-2019 at 03:25

Two sources have:

Vedic - Sanskrit - Pali - Prakrit - Indic/Indian/Indo-Aryan/Aryan : Hindu/Hindi, Sindhi, Punjabi, etc.



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Posted By: PakistaniShield
Date Posted: 03-May-2019 at 18:45
So should Vedic Sanskrit based languages be named Vedic languages to distinguish them from Dardic languages? 

They're both Indo-Aryan, but differ in subgrouping.


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Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 03-May-2019 at 23:52
I dont really see that it is a major worry, it seems trivial to me (no offense meant), except that i didn't know Dardic was a branch within Indo-Aryan separate from the "Vedic" ones. Actually i wonder if the Dardic didn't possibly stem from Vedic (excuse my ignorance if linguistic evidence is known it didn't)? Sounds like if it is within Indo-Aryan then it did come from Vedic which is earliest parent of Indo-Aryan.  Maybe just Indic/Indian as opposed to Kashmiri/Pakistani/Afghan (Dardic/Kati/Kalash/Kafir, Pushtun).
You could argue Pathan/Pushtu is within Iranic so what is the distinct name for non-Afghan Iranian languages? (Persian? Iranian? Avestan?)
Is Dardic same age as or older or later than Indic and Iranic branches?
You could probably just coin your own name, since many books have different names for races/languages given by different scholars. Uless you are seeking correct scientific taxa nomenclature for groups/branches universal acceptance of all experts like the scientific zoological names.


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Posted By: PakistaniShield
Date Posted: 07-May-2019 at 01:42
^^ To answer your question, Dardic languages are akin to Vedic Sanskrit within Indo-Aryan. That's why I propose naming them Vedic languages. Was just wondering other peoples opinions on them.


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