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    Posted: 13-May-2006 at 17:20
There is a big difference between ethnicity and nationality, yes Tamerlane was a turk in the sense that modern day turks(from turkey), mongols and so on come from the same subrace as do Bosnians, Serbs, Croatians, Ukranians, Poles, Russians etc., but that in no way does link Tamerlane to the modern state of Turkey, except that he almost destroyed the Ottoman Empire which would have lead to the nonexistance of the modern Turkish state.
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Yes, Bosniakum, that was my same exact point about Atilla the Hun.

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For Australia
1.The ANZACs, heroes from our first war as a nation.
2. Edmund Barton, 1st PM.
3. Peter Lalor, Leader of the Eureka Stockade.
4. =Banjo Paterson and Henry Lawson, formulate Australian identity.
5. Don Bradman, greatest batsman cricket has ever seen.
6. Sir John Kerr, vestige of British Power.
7. Sir Arthur Philip, established Colony of NSW.
8. Captain James Cook, British but discovered East Coast.
9. Robert Menzies, longest serving PM.
10. John Howard, Current PM and international statesman.
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Of the Country i live in (England)
Alfred the Great
William the Conquerer
Queen Victoria
 
Of the Country my family comes from
Brian Boru
Micheal Collins
My peoples tale is written in blood
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I will have to disagree with you on that one Disraeli.

The most important people in Australias History are:

1. Russel Crowe - Excellent weapon handling skills especially Telephones.
2. Elle MacPhearson - Excellent Body.
3. The Crocodile Hunter - Excellent Animal skills
4. Paul Hogan - Excellent plastic surgery.
5. Ian Thorpe - Excellent fake Tan.




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Originally posted by Gargoyle


I will have to disagree with you on that one Disraeli.

The most important people in Australias History are:

1. Russel Crowe - Excellent weapon handling skills especially Telephones.
2. Elle MacPhearson - Excellent Body.
3. The Crocodile Hunter - Excellent Animal skills
4. Paul Hogan - Excellent plastic surgery.
5. Ian Thorpe - Excellent fake Tan.





I hope you are kidding.

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I think that in Albania after Gjergj Kastriot Skanderbeg we can consider Mother Teresa as the most important figure.
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For Britain, important people in history include...
 
William Shakespeare
Sir Isaac Newton
William the Conqueror (who was actually from France)
Queen Victoria
Winston Churchill
Lord Admiral Nelson
Oliver Cromwell (Only person ever to be non-Royal Head of state of England).
Charles Dickens
George Orwell
JRR Tolkien
John Mills
Alfred Hitchcock
 


Edited by DonLeone - 30-Jul-2006 at 11:57
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Originally posted by DonLeone

For Britain, important people in history include...
 
William Shakespeare
Sir Isaac Newton
William the Conqueror (who was actually from France)
Queen Victoria
Winston Churchill
Lord Admiral Nelson
Oliver Cromwell (Only person ever to be non-Royal Head of state of England).
Charles Dickens
George Orwell
JRR Tolkien
John Mills
Alfred Hitchcock
 
 
 
I like Hitchcock's film too, but is he really more important than Queen Elizabeth I, or did you just simply forget her?
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For Armenia:

1) Mesrob Mashtots (creator of the alphabet)
2) Hovhannes Toumanian (poet)
3) Sayat Nova (troubadour)
4) Komitas (composer)
5) King Trdat III (king when Armenia accepted the Christianity)
6) King Tigranes the Great (Armenia as a world power, albeit for a short while)
7) Aram Khachaturian (composer)
8) Movses Khorenatsi (historian from the 5th century)
9) General Andranik (fought to save whatever was left of Armenia after 1915)
10) Garegin Njdeh (same as above)
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Originally posted by Komnenos

Originally posted by DonLeone

For Britain, important people in history include...
 
William Shakespeare
Sir Isaac Newton
William the Conqueror (who was actually from France)
Queen Victoria
Winston Churchill
Lord Admiral Nelson
Oliver Cromwell (Only person ever to be non-Royal Head of state of England).
Charles Dickens
George Orwell
JRR Tolkien
John Mills
Alfred Hitchcock
 
 
 
I like Hitchcock's film too, but is he really more important than Queen Elizabeth I, or did you just simply forget her?
 
I was just naming a random few, in no particular listing.
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The most important person in American history is George Washington.He led the troops that defeated the British in the revolution and was the first priesident,and a good one. 
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Dr. Suess. The guy knew how to make me laugh in my formative years.

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Bosniakum
There is a big difference between ethnicity and nationality, yes Tamerlane was a turk in the sense that modern day turks(from turkey), mongols and so on come from the same subrace as do Bosnians, Serbs, Croatians, Ukranians, Poles, Russians etc., but that in no way does link Tamerlane to the modern state of Turkey, except that he almost destroyed the Ottoman Empire which would have lead to the nonexistance of the modern Turkish state.
 
There are so many misconsceptions and a lack of knowledge about Timur. His aim was to unite all Turks and their Beyliks. Timur wrote a letter to Bayezid of the Ottomans to join together. This is where Bayezid made his big mistake, he dismissed Timur's offer and thought he was the greatest. The Ottoman Empire was getting powerfull, the Beyliks had been united but Bayezid was starting to neglect them, not appreciate their role and started living a life of luxury not caring about important state affair.
 
Timur angered by Bayezid's insults, lack of forsight and neglect of his Turkish powerbase marched in. He guaranteed to give the Turk people back their power, status and importance. The Turks and their Beys joined Timur, Bayezid was left without Turks on his side and was heavily defeated.
 
In the aftermath the power of the Anatolian Turks was recertified, the Ottoman Sultans after realised that there power lied with loyalty of their people the same people who they originally belonged to and rose to power from. The Turk Beys enjoyed an important status and states like Karakoyunlu, Akkoyunlu etc
 
Timur made the Ottomans realise and stop their mistakes early, he helped them mature and become the world-super power that they became a hundred years later.
 
 
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Kommenois, I would definatly dispute JRR Tolkien as a British major historical figure. Although his books have become childrens classics, and they do have pieces of Anglo-Saxon myth behind them, he is not that huge a figure. I think its' because of this film that most people seem to have this misconception.
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I agree with Earl Aster, I don't think authors are more important than historical figures in the history of Great Britain(united or not), for eample James I, Adam Smith, Elizabeth I, Richard I, John Knox, Henry VIII, etc.

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1.The ANZACs, heroes from our first war as a nation.
2. Edmund Barton, 1st PM.
3. Peter Lalor, Leader of the Eureka Stockade.
4. =Banjo Paterson and Henry Lawson, formulate Australian identity.
6. Sir John Kerr, vestige of British Power.
7. Sir Arthur Philip, established Colony of NSW.
9. Robert Menzies, longest serving PM.
10. John Howard, Current PM and international statesman.
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Lets try:
1) Bradman (for having at batting avg of 99.96)
2) Captain Cook (for opening up British colonialism)
3) Whitlam (for giving a hard kick when it was needed)
4) Bradman (for having at batting avg of 99.96)
5) the man who named Lake Disappointment
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Since the country i Live in is America (a.k.a) the center of civilization of the world, i will have to say the most important person of that is


"Jesus"
    

Edited by Ponce de Leon - 05-Aug-2006 at 22:17
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Ponce, I hope that is a joke. America is a secular country, and only religious fanatics want to change it that way. Our founding fathers are the most important people in our history, not some prophet.

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The declaration of Independence has the word "Our Creator" and I interpret that as Jesus.

Allejuhah! Or whatever it is spelled
    

Edited by Ponce de Leon - 05-Aug-2006 at 22:32
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